The Best thing for boxing would be if....

i would be happy if all practitioners of both sports were compensated fairly according to how much revenue they create. but i guess if you want to watch some slimy canuck grapple with 6 ranked contenders in 18 months for relative chump change then ufc is for you

 

blaming that guy for things is like shooting fish in a barrel

it's beneath me, LOL

 

Once Fraud gets KTFO, those $40 mill paydays are over. He's fighting off the hype of his sh*t padded record against bums and shot fighters. Not that he was ever actually making $40 mill. At most, he makes $25 mill likely and once all taxes and fees are sorted, he probably takes home 10-12 mill at best.

 

F*ck are you on about? GSP takes home 2-3 million per fight. He gets a cut of ppv revenue amongst other things. And his ppvs normally sell near the million mark. Fraud F*ckweather on the other hand fights off a padded sh*t record against bums and shot old men and handpicks his fights too and his whole hype is based off his crappy streak. Once that streak is gone, there will be no more 20-30 mill paydays. People used to buy up all Tyson's sh*t too because he managed to hype himself up as a real fighter when all he was doing was handpicking scrubs and avoiding real fights. Fraud has the public fooled.

 

Your reading comprehension is poor. I consider you one of the least intelligent fellows on this forum

 

Guys, I think we're losing sight of what's really important in the boxing vs MMA discussion.

.. Which is that MMA is a boring and gay sport.

 

read carefully you simpleton. how did you gather this from my post that you quoted?

 

:laughing:

 

How did your fact that UFC 100 drew 1.6 million homes go.

GSP is making nothing grow. Unless you think 25 minutes of laying on somebody is actually entertaining in a sport. Sleeping pill lay and prey exhibitions make even the worst Mayweather fights look good.

 

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See, this is where you and I are different. I didn't say UFC 100 did 1.6 million buys. I asked the question. I have absolutely no way of knowing how many people bought the PPV.

You, on the other hand, spoke completely out of your ass about Floyd getting paid $40 million per fight, which is absolutely horseshit. Typical from you.

And I didn't say a damn word about GSP being entertaining. He puts me to sleep. To me an average boxing match is more entertaining than almost any GSP fight. Period.

But you are an absolute dolt, without question, if you're trying to claim GSP hasn't help the sport of MMA grow. Hell, Steve_Dave hates the sport and he'll tell you about MMA growing in Canada largely due to GSP's popularity.

I know it must hurt you like a pin to the eyeball but Floyd Mayweather is an absolute cancer to the sport of boxing. He represents 99 out of 100 things wrong with the sport. And GSP, fighting often, always being in shape, always saying and doing the right thing, is a sterling ambassador for MMA in comparison.

 

No, I'd rather fantasy about what it would be like if Floyd actual fought the best guy in the division, once. Do you like dreaming too?

 

steve kim claims that mayweather jr is guaranteed 40 million dollars for the ortiz fight.

 

it isnt a big deal to me. i realized long ago that mayweather jr was not interested in proving himself against the toughest foes, he said it himself. he will take the fights that make sense (financially).

ray leonard doesnt seem to get as much flak for doing the same shit after his first victory over hearns. it just so happened that he achieved star status earlier in his career when he was still a hungry fighter, and it enabled him to get matches with big money opponents at that time.

 

And? I figured that story is what RJJ was going on about Floyd making $40 mil per fight.

Thank god he's being fairly compensated. ::

 

i dont know about 40 million per fight, but that is what he's allegedly getting this upcoming fight.

people are paying to see him, that makes it fair. do you prefer the principle attraction to get 10% of the overall revenue?

 

I'm not going to argue with you anymore. First, you have the best avatar on Fightbeat. Second, I always get ridiculed for slamming Ray's career after Hearns. It's a joke. It was scripted. And he is the least accomplished multi-division champ ever. The douche gets two titles (168 and 175) for the LaLonde fight at a catch weight. And Ray never fought before or after at LH. What a joke.

 

To me, and this is personal opinion, I'd rather see fighters like Floyd make less money thus forcing them to fight more ofter in matches the fans prefer to see. In that regard I like the UFC's model. Floyd is such a huge draw that he can make fights like the one with Ortiz and make so much money that a Manny fight is absolutely unnecessary for him. That hurts the sport.

But to be honest, I have no idea what the top guys in the UFC actual make. The salaries and fight night awards are announced but other compensation like PPV revenue sharing like Lesnar, Silva and GSP are rumored to get, is speculation. No one, outside the UFC, has any idea.

The biggest point is that you rarely, if ever, hear UFC fighters complain any more. Even the two biggest former salary whiners (Couture and Ortiz) have nothing but great things to say now about the UFC compensating fighters. In fact, Ortiz is actually saying very positive things.

 

Did Ray Leonard run around claiming he was the best that ever laced them up?
No.
That's why he doesn't get as much flak.

Also you go all the way back to bring up Ray Leonard as a comparative excuse for Floyd. You had to go that far because DLH fought the best guys, Shane fought tough guys, Tito too. Anyone can go pull a comparative fighter who ducked challenges from the past but this isn't about them it's about the fighter in question, Floyd. Just because others may have done it does not excuse him now or ever.

 

:nono: He wouldn't have got any flak from you either up until recently. :TLC:

 

I'm not going to comment on that because I don't know much about the history of Ray's boxing career. I'm dealing with the present and what I do know.

 

you worry too much about what people say.

 

I missed this line of bullshit that Floyd groupies ate up hook line and sinker.

If Floyd is going to make 20 to 30 million fighting JMM, common sense dictates he would have made equal if not much more fighting the likes of Cotto, Margarito, and even Clottey. Pacquiao proved those guys were bankable when he fought them. In fact, with that line of thinking doesn't the fight that make the most sense mean Floyd should be fighting Pacquiao?

Nice try Neil but I think fighting Ortiz instead of Pacquiao actually proves Floyd cares only about fighting soft touches as opposed to fights that make sense (financially). You were half right though, Floyd's obviously not interested in proving himself against the toughest foes.

 

Only when what they say isn't reflected in their actions.

 

you sound like godfather. For the past 5 years or so Mayweather jr has only been interested in making the most money for the least risk. He said it himself, he will take the fights that make the most sense. It bothers you and others, i accepted it long ago.

 

How could you accept that as a fan and still remain a fan?

REED will dispute this til he's in the grave only because he doesn't remember but I was a huge Roy Jones fan until I noticed him doing the same thing, and then just like with Floyd I became one of Roy's biggest critics.

 

because i still enjoy watching his fights and training

 

You can still enjoy his fights and training without having to sound like a blind fan. I think you should be more critical or at the least neutral about the guy rather than making excuses and defending his actions. Defending him makes it seem like you don't have a problem with what he does.

Hell, I still enjoy watching him fight too, I just wish he'd fight the top guys.