Floyd Burning $100 bills

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  1. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    It means that he's considered the best.

    Yes he should have remained active and fought everyone (or else stay retired after Hatton).

    Winning is never guaranteed, but he'd be the favourite..and he's the favourite because his obvious talents have been proved over a long career. Cotto, margarito and Cintron look like shit compared with him.
     
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    For the Thousandth & ONE Time, Team Pacquiao Eventually agREED to the Compromise...& WHO Pulled it Off the Table???...That's Right, it was Floyd...Why was the Compromise COOL for the 1st Negotiation but NOT the 2nd???...



    REED:scared:
     
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    YUP......for 39 fights regular boxing drug testing was OKAY....but when it came time for Pacquiao vs. Mayweather....MONEY wanted to start something new....even if it cost him 30-50 million.

    Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquiao unless he really...really have to. He is satisfied with making 20-30 million and keeping his undefeated record fighting Ortiz.....or Spadafora..or matthew Hatton...
     
  4. Anthony

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    Sorry, that only works in your warped mind. DLH was the favorite against Pac.

    We dont know if Margarito, Cotto, Williams, etc. could beat Mayweather. We dont know if any of them has his number. Tarver is not even close to being on RJJ's level yet prime or not, he would give Floyd some trouble and obviously has the potential to beat him. whether it was fucking with his mind or knocking him out.
     
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    The problem is...I understand what you're saying and you are correct in that a favourite isn't guaranteed to win a fight. But you're arguing on a very simplistic level...I thought we were beyond that here.

    As such yours is a slippery slope argument in the context of determining who's the best.

    Frazier beat Ali in 1971 and as such was rightfully considered the proven best Heavyweight. But had Frazier fought Norton, Shavers, Lyle, Young, Patterson, Liston, Foley, at that time? Who's knows, maybe one of those guys could have beaten him.

    You see the childish folly of your argument in the context of me saying that Floyd is the best?
     
  6. Anthony

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    I am arguing on a simplistic level because this is a very simple subject. You want to make it more dificult and spin your way into bolivia.

    You want to lable floyd the best because he beat:

    Gatti 140
    Mitchell 147 (his best weight is 140 and he was shot)
    Judah 147 (best weight is 140 and he just lost to baldy)
    baldy 147
    DLH 154 ( 1 good win out of his last 5 fights and it was against mayorga)
    Hatton 147 (best weight at 140)
    Marrquez 147 (best weight is 135)
    Mosley 147

    If you think that is a great resume, then good for you. I say that resume is lacking. I am not going to call Floyd the best because he beat those guys. He has the potential to be the best, but you prove that in the ring. You prove that buy beating the top guys in your division. Beating top guys in lower divisions doesnt put a tingle up my leg like it does yours sly. You need a reality check.
     
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    Did Cotto have a better (beaten opponents) resume at 147/154lbs?
    Margarito?
    Cintron?
    Williams?
     
  8. Anthony

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    That isnt the point Sly. They were arguably the best in the division and posed a serious threat to anyone they were fighting. Even if floyd beat them, it wouldnt be easy and would probably test his heart in some areas.
     
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    On the contrary this IS the point my friend.

    I said that Floyd is the best. You seem to disagree. So you blabber on about these other guys he didn't fight. The only relevance of this is if you somehow feel they proved to be better than him in the absent of actually fighting him. You give me his list of fights at 147/154 and criticize it. I ask if they have better resumes. You can't answer that.

    If they had more success at 147lbs than Floyd as well as him not having fought them, you would have a point. But this isn't the case.
     
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    :Steve-Dave/MMA: Ok ok! Floyd is the best. There!!!! Can we move on now?!?!?! :giggle:
     
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    word.

    Until beaten he's the best. I concede that Pacquiao has a legtimate claim to that title though...but I remember Morales and Marquez messing him up, Floyd just dominates.

    :hammert:
     
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    You are a ridiculous person when it comes to Floyd.
     
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    Yeah usually when you fight the top guys in your division, you have a fight on your hands. Floyd wouldn't know about that now would he?
     
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    Mayweather didn't look like any hot sh*t against Castillo and a shot Oscar. Actually Pacman tore Oscar apart while Floyd won on a split and had a marked up face. But people keep quiet about that.
     
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    Yup, I didn't see Floyd welcoming fights against Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito either. Pac fought them all while Floyd retired for 2 years and bitched out.
     
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    Against Floyd Oscar was much closer to his prime and he was fighting at a comfortable weight.

    Actually Floyd embarrased Marquez while Pacman struggled twice with him. But people keep quiet abotu that. :egypt:
     
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    BWAHAHAHAH

    :lol::lol:
     
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    Floyd pretty coo'.
     
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    Dumbass!:lol: Marquez jumped up 2 weight classes to fight Floyd and Floyd still came in over the contracted weight.
    Oscar was shot against Floyd and Pac. Pac just showed how you handle a shot fighter whereas Floyd barely eeked out a decision in a sh*t fight where his bitch ass was too scared to engage.
     
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    And Floyd proved he is better than those guys with his resume instead of actually fighting them?

    Last I checked, to prove you are the best you fucking fight the best available guys in your division. You seem to have a serious problem understanding this.
     
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    Yup. I see no Cotto, Clottely or Margarito on Floyd's resume. All I see are shot versions of Oscar and Mosley. That's it. Along with little Hatton and Marquez who were completely out of their best weight classes when fighting Floyd.
     
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    Please. Everyone knows that Floyd would have done the same thing to Marquez at 135lbs. And Oscar was much closer to his prime against Floyd (and comfortable at the weight) than he was against Pac.
     
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    Um, Pac fought JMM in his actual prime at his best weight. Floyd didn't fight ODH or JMM at their best weight or anywhere near their prime.
     
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    Maybe, but you don't know that and neither does anyone else. You're just ASSuming.
     
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    Sly is trolling. Mods!!! Give this guy a 2 day break from the forum!!! :pissed:
     
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    No he wouldn't. The fight could have been much closer against a younger Marquez, not the flabby 37 year old he fought at 147.
     
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    please shut up. You should be ashamed for how you are acting. You seriously sound like a bitch sticking up for her man.
     
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    "We brothas gotta stick together!"
     
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    Floyd wouldnt consider sly a brotha. He is English/Canadian. Floyd would clown him for his sissy talk.
     
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    :lol:
     

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