What do they have in common?

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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Inspired by the Hutster master of Hutness.

    Felix Trinidad, Mike Tyson, Donald Curry.

    There is a specific ability that they share in common...and it's not the fact that they all have good left hooks because Tua, Ruddock, Frazier and many others have not shown this specific ability.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Curry & Tyson both hand a particularly impressive ability to slip inside the jab (or outside the right) and throw short hooks. Tito probably did in his younger days too though I'm blind to all his plus points as a fighter :lol:
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    correct. You nailed it. Tito was very good at it also....check the Vargas fight.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Yay! :mj:

    Incidentally, Curry is a pretty good example of a fighter who fights contrary to the principle I'm talking about in my thread (though obviously extremely well adapted to 'compensating' for doing so).
     
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    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    D, when can we expect the next installement of the knockout series? I quite enjoyed the first two editions.
     
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    and while being equipped with a whole host of "old-timey" skills as well
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Not very related but I just watched Tyson-Berbick there. I think that was probably the best Tyson we ever saw (yeah I know Berbick wasn't exactly fantastic)..... his balance and intensity and focus and energy and reactions. Maybe he would have folded in a hard fight, but purely a tool of carnage against a guy on berbick's level, hot damn.

    It's very interesting how little he reacts to getting hit or missing shots. Or to landing good ones. There's none of the frustration & over excitement you see in later fights, he isn't reaching or grasping at getting his way, he's just going about his business like a damn samurai.
     
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    Absolutely. That Tyson was a heavyweight fighting machine. In terms of pure fighting prowess, the best heavyweight ever IMO.

    I wish we knew how well that Tyson could hold it together mentally compared to the later Tyson, if he was any stronger, or just the same.

    By the way Tito didn't really do anything well apart from land his huge left hook after taking a couple of seconds setting his big floppy legs.
     
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    Agreed. Tyson was at his best that night. His expression was like that of a great white shark in mid-attack...cold dead eyes.
     
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    Tyson had remarkable skill for such a young man, too
     
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    Which had already deteriorated by 1988 IMO:notallthere:
     
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    Let's keep this rolling

    Tarver, Glen Johnson, Joe Calzaghe
     
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    amazingly enough
     
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    Does Bernard Hopkins and that LEGEND, Danny Green belong in this group as well?
     
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    He peaked early.

    There was a 17 year old in 1984 named Ade Mafe who made the olympic 200m final placing behind the legendary Carl Lewis.

    You would think that if he could run 20.5 at aged 17 that by the time he reaches his peak of 22-25 he'd probably smash the 19 sec barrier let alone the world record.

    But no...his peak wasn't 22-25 like most sprinters, his peak was 17! :lol:

    Tyson's peak was aged 19-21 it would seem. He developed early and his body reached it's physical peak then. Unusual, but it happens...
     
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    Nope! Hopkins lost to Roid and Danny Green fought a shell of Roid. The men I named fathered Roid Jones.
     
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    Benitez beat Cervantes at 17 and was basically finished by the time he was 26

    Tony Canzoneri was an old man at 26 as well

    Unusual, but it happens

    A lesser fighter than those two, Pipino Cuevas, was essentially finished by age 23 or 24
     
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    I can maybe see the Tarver argument, but saying Jones Jr wasn't a shell of himself when he fought Johnson and Calzaghe is kind of absurd
     

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