Strikeforce: Fedor-Henderson 7/30/11 (Prediction Contest)

Silva will lose when he fights a multi demensional fighter,which he hasn't done in the UFC yet.

 

Didn't Fedor lose a bunch of weight for this fight?

 

:doh:

Ignoring the ignorance of the statement, I guess the same could be considered for Fedor...considering, sadly enough Dan Henderson is probably the most multi-dimensional fighter he's ever fought.

 

More ignorance. Guys like Frank Shamrock were showing the effectiveness of cross-training when Fedor was a nobody.

Hell, even Bas Rutten was more of a pioneer in that regard than Fedor.

Nuthuggers are an embarrassment. :boohoo:

 

Patrick Smith was cross-training before all these fags.

 

Wow, y'all brought TLC back?... smdh this place will never flourish now.

 

I single handedly stagnated the userbase of all of Fightbeat like Fedor single handedly evolved MMA. :giggle:

 

And if Fedor had won last night, Henderson would be just another "old man past his prime who was too small to fight Fedor and never was much of a threat." LOL!

 

All of those things are still true. Despite the fact that he won. Except he's always a threat with his right hand...but even despite winning, he's the only fighter in MMA that competed in nude Pankration in Athens, and he's a 205lber that walks around at 206lbs..aka a Middleweight.

He's the most multi-dimensional fighter Fedor fought because Fedor fought scrubs in a scrub division. And to be fair, he's probably one of the top 5 p4p fighters of all time if you look at his whole career.

But no one is acting like Hendo is on some career renaissance and is going to be some super awesome fighter now, he's still a guy that just a while back was getting dominated by Jake Shields.....bad back or not.

 

Did you see how Henderson tried to bomb out Anderson? Throwing hail marys and sh*t and Anderson simply ducked and dodged and stepped out of the way, allowing the old man to gas out and then choked him out? Fedor on the other hand knows f*ck all about boxing by the looks of it. His striking style is much like Wanderlei's. Simply go out there, chin sticking out and just wail away and whatever happens happens! :dunno:
Since when do they teach sh*t like this in boxing gyms? Fedor's stuck with the same idiotic boxing trainer since his youth. Anybody who knows anything about striking knows you're liable to getting KTFO when you throw punches like that. Same thing happened to Wanderlei against Leben and now same thing happened to Fedor.
And as the commentator said last night, the jab is extemely underutilized in MMA. No fighter actually even knows how to throw a proper jab. They just go all out blazing guns style sh*t, looking at the ground and hoping something lands. F*cking idiots!
Fedor was talking sh*t. He never learned a damn thing since his loss to Antonio. He didn't go to Holland and learn how to strike. It's the same style he's been using for years and it bit him in the ass. I saw nothing different in his approach at all.

 

I don't really blame Hendo for the Anderson fight because it was clear(and wise) that his strategy was not to strike with Anderson but to clinch and take him down. And it worked for about a round until Anderson was able to catch him, Hendo pulled guard like an idiot, Anderson hit him with some ground and pound then choked him.


Obviously in this fight, it was more beneficial for Hendo to try to land a big right hand in the standup then risk the guard of Fedor...


And yeah, Fedor goes to Holland to take photos basically...all that bit of news was good for was a laugh when his nuthuggers were talking about how he was going into his next fight throwing high and low kicks....



As for the jab, most people have crap jabs but I disagree. Anderson has a good jab, Mark Hominick probably has the best jab on a B fighter in MMA, BJ Penn has a good jab, GSP has a good jab and Aldo's jab is getting better....JDS also seems to have an improving jab.

 

It's obvious. When you've been fighting the same way your entire life, you can't change anything in a matter of months. I've seen massive improvements in GSP but he's still young and was developing and improving his game even as champion. Although he looked like sh*t against Shields with his looping wild overhands again and again but overall, he's improved.
Also can't wait to see Cain Velasquez back. I hope the layoff hasn't f*cked him up.

 

GSP, Anderson and BJ Penn are probably the best strikers in the game. Or amongst the best. I think Jon Jones also needs to work on his boxing game. He's got a massive reach, a ton of potential but he's not a confident boxer. He needs to improve that.

 

Fedor was great because he had the ability to get out of bad positions and turn lemons into lemonade. And he had the even rarer ability to regularly knock people out when he was in their guard.

Red herring alert in this thread...As to punching power, it really doesn't matter fuck all if Hendo is a big puncher or bigger than other opponents that Fedor has fought or anything like that...the punch that Henderson landed that ended the fight was effective because Fedor didn't see it or expect it, it wasn't effective because it was a hard punch. Hell, I'd be amazed if Fedor has ever been in the ring with any fighter who couldn't hit harder than the punch that Henderson landed.

 

Anderson was showed that switch working with a member of the Cuban wrestling team in training camp.


The man is just a genius though so he's more of an exception than the rule.

 

Uh no.

 

He prefers elbowing people than punching them.


He's one of the very rare guys in MMA that throws standing elbows with regularity in MMA. His striking game focuses far more on knee strikes and elbows. Makes him a lot more explosive of a striker, but it may not always be effective as some old fashioned jabs and leg kicks.

 

This is how you deal with a good puncher like Henderson. Take notice of where Dan's looking when he throws. F*cking drunk club brawler at best who's just throwing wild punches and not knowing where the f*ck he's throwing them. LOL! He's looking down at the ground and throwing hail mary punches. Then look at Anderson's punches. He's targeting Henderson with each strike and looking right at him throughout. If a pro boxer threw punches the way Henderson throws, they'd be diced up and sh*tted out by the public and media. But since it's MMA, it's normal. Look at the ground and just throw wildly. LOL! It works sometimes.

 

Wow.....watching the semi-slow motion gifs I never realized how Silva just eats punches like that to counter at times.

 

Uh yes. [edit] looking at his record, you are correct, he didn't get too many ko's while in someone's guard.
i'll change it to '...regularly hurt people with strikes while in their guard.' Better?

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Fedor doing what he does best- strikes from the guard

 

He's got his eyes completely locked on Henderson there eh? LOL! He can see everything Henderson is throwing.

 

He has a pretty good chin actually. He did take some clean (not flush) shots from Hendo and they had no real effect.

 

He seems to actually "roll with the punches" which is something almost NO ONE in MMA does. Either out of lack of courage or lack of ability.

Here's another good example.





So yeah I'd agree that the punches were clean but not flush. He uses subtle head movement to avoid that.

 

This enhances Jake Shield's legacy.

 

Anderson silva is one of the few good striker in mma when he's on. Great head movement and poise.

Still, I still rebember him getting outstrike by chael sonnene, and by maia(at the end).

He's horribly inconsistent (but that may be due to the fact that he's getting up in age)

 

Anderson was not outstruck by Sonnen. Sonnen landed one good shot the whole damn fight. The Maia fight Anderson was just being a clown and Maia was getting desperate in the last round.

 

And i believe he is 1-1 as a pro boxer with a KO loss