Great Fights you never hear anyone talk about

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  1. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    indeed... this fact merely enhances his legacy
     
    cdogg187, Aug 10, 2011
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  2. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    just watched it. it's more of a knee than a standing eigght count imo
     
    Jesus of montreal, Aug 10, 2011
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  3. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Chavez is the obvious pick vs Marquez, but at 130 Neil is right, it would have been a fight. You're talking about the Kats and Diaz fights, who the hell brought those up as evidence that Marquez would give Chavez a fight at 135?

    The Whitaker fight didn't take place in Chavez's prime? What about the Taylor fight? We've already discussed that one to hell and back, Chavez was severely down on the scorecards and regardless of whether you think it SHOULD have, it easily COULD have ended in a wide decision for Taylor.

    The Lockridge fight was certainly close, clear but close and competitive. I thought the LaPorte fight could've gone either way, tbh it was probably Chavez's but it's interesting how he always got the benefit of the doubt in those situations.

    But once again.. how many other top 15 fighters got schooled like Chavez did against Whitaker in their prime? I'm not saying Chavez wasn't a great fighter. But top 15? If you want to see the difference between a top 15 ATG and an "ordinary" great fighter, go watch round 8 of Whitaker-Chavez.

    Oh yeah, Duran and Mayweather Jr both beat Chavez at 135. I'd bet on Carlos Ortiz to do it as well.
     
    loadedgloves, Aug 11, 2011
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  4. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

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    Comparing Norton to Marquez is ridiculous...How many times has Marquez been out cold? Marquez is a classy fighter Norton was an overachiever..

    Anyways Prince Charles Williams vs Adolpho Washington...anyone remember this scrap?
     
    Barristan, Aug 11, 2011
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  5. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Anyway, on the topic of the thread, I watched Benn-Eubank 1 a few weeks back. Great fight, though not that obscure (especially not to the Europeans on this forum).
     
    loadedgloves, Aug 11, 2011
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  6. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    interestingly enough i met laporte in vegas a few years ago and asked him who was better out of chavez and sanchez, and who wouldve won had they fought. without hesitation he tabbed sanchez.
     
    Neil, Aug 11, 2011
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  7. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    Yes, because fighters have proven to be totally unbiased and reliable when it comes to this sort of thing
     
    cdogg187, Aug 11, 2011
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  8. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    I'm ashamed to say I've never seen that fight in full, not sure why, just never got round to it
     
    Slice N Dice, Aug 11, 2011
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  9. cdogg187

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    it's a good brawl
     
    cdogg187, Aug 11, 2011
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  10. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    it is what it is. he fought them both, and that was his opinion on the matter.
     
    Neil, Aug 11, 2011
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  11. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Bill Johnson vs Marcus Delaney.
     
    Destruction and Mayhem, Aug 11, 2011
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  12. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Yeah I've seen the highlights now and again on TV, and can remember the stoppage and Benns swollen eye clearly. Other than that though, not much.
     
    Slice N Dice, Aug 11, 2011
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  13. Ugotabe Kidding

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    Arguello-Oliveras

    Two legends and an excellent fight with several twists on its plot, but not much talk about it. Probably because it gets overshadowed by Arguello-Pryor I, but IMO this fight is right at its class
     
    Ugotabe Kidding, Aug 11, 2011
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  14. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    and you ought to know better than to throw it out there like it means anything
     
    cdogg187, Aug 12, 2011
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  15. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    agree

    Olivares was wildly inconsistent at 126, but on that night he was real sharp and the outcome was in doubt right until Arguello landed a monstrous short hook

    that is a terrific fight
     
    cdogg187, Aug 12, 2011
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  17. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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  18. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    To my mind, the greatest Nicaraguan ever vs. the greatest Mexican ever - though not really on a level playing field, mind.
     
    Ramonza Soliloquies, Aug 15, 2011
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  19. BOSS

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    I have a couple but If I reveal them you guys will talk about them hence they no longer will belong in this thread.
     
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  20. cdogg187

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    Definitely the greatest Nicaraguan

    Greatest Mexican? It's close, but I might take Chavez for his consistency

    If Olivares had trained more, he could have been so much greater than he was, and he was already pretty incredible... He's so underrated as a boxer, everyone thinks of his offense... but when he needed to be, he could be damn near unhittable
     
    cdogg187, Aug 16, 2011
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  21. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Definitely a debate, & more than a two-horse race, at that.

    I prefer Olivares at #1.
     
    Ramonza Soliloquies, Aug 16, 2011
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  22. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    #1 has to be Chavez.

    It's sort of like picking Henry Armstrong over Ray Robinson overall P4P. You could make a good argument for both but universal acceptance goes with Robinson and Chavez. (overall and Mexicans)

    If Salvador Sanchez was able to have a full career things might be different.
     
    whiskey, Aug 16, 2011
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  23. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I disagree with the notion that Chavez has to be number one.
     
    Ramonza Soliloquies, Aug 16, 2011
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  24. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Do you disagree with the notion Robinson has to be #1?

    (other than Captain Caveman)
     
    whiskey, Aug 16, 2011
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  25. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't remember the whole fight, but I remember Golota punching T-Rex's eye out, blood all over the place
     
    Dog Jones, Aug 16, 2011
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  26. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Thats tough, but ultimately, I would lean toward saying yes, I do disagree.
     
    Ramonza Soliloquies, Aug 16, 2011
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  27. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Then who do you have as #1?
     
    whiskey, Aug 16, 2011
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  28. BOSS

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    Yup that was a fun war. Especially round 2.
     
    BOSS, Aug 16, 2011
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  29. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Robinson. Im just saying I dont think its beyond fair debate.
     
    Ramonza Soliloquies, Aug 16, 2011
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  30. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    agree
     
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