James Kirkland Abusing Sparring Partner

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  1. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Nice, so he only brings in these scrubs to look good on the internet. What a great guy, I'm sure the dudes taking the beatings appreciate it.

    Can't wait to see this guy get smashed again.
     
  2. cdogg187

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    He spars with Chris Henry? man, they must have to scrape him off the canvas after trading with that Sexy, Black and Shiny, Masculine Hitter (Copyright 2010 Karl Smegman)
     
  3. Irish

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    I understand that. But surely once they begin to resemble hapless street people, then is the time to call time.

    If James wants to renew a sparring session with the same intensity, all he has to do is employ two partners.

    Send one home for the day once he is through, and carry on with the fresh dance partner.
     
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  5. Irish

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    Haye was defeated. That fad be over, albeit temporarily. Lots more Heidi's where the first slut came from.:popcorn:
     
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    Add Don King to the long list.

    http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/don-king-makes-charged-racial-assessment-of-david-haye-and-the-klitschko-brothers/

    Don King Makes Charged Racial Assessment of David Haye and the Klitschko Brothers

    By Johnny Walker

    Veteran boxing promoter Don King has made a troubling assessment of David Haye and the Klitschko brothers today in the British media.

    King, who turns 80 today, tells www.dailymail.co.uk that the Klitschko brothers “are good big men†who “are more champions of Germany than of the world.†He added that “your David Haye was a horrible disappointment against Wladimir.â€

    The really interesting part of King’s remarks about the Klitschkos and Germany comes next, when King says of Haye:

    “‘[He] would never have fought that feebly if he had been with me. He had the charisma and style to revive heavyweight boxing but, in a stadium full of Germans, he became one of many fighters I’ve known who were afraid to hit the white man.â€

    It’s hard to know where to begin with a statement like this. Never mind that David Haye’s mother is white, and therefore Haye himself is half white, which complicates what King said even more. If you go along with King’s thinking, maybe David Haye was too conflicted by his racial composition to fight properly against Wladimir Klitschko.

    A bigger question: Is King giving voice to an undercurrent in the American boxing community about the Klitschkos’ heavyweight title reign?

    It is interesting that many of the fighters the Klitschkos have defeated, like Kevin Johnson, still show the champions no respect, but continue to talk trash about them as if they had won rather than been destroyed. There is a feeling of resentment and disrespect about the Klitschkos that emanates from many fighters, usually black fighters, who speak about them, that goes beyond what is normally seen in boxing.

    The overall feeling that comes from these remarks, including King’s when he says that the Klitschkos are “more champions of Germany than of the world,†is that the brothers are somehow illegitimate champions. That they are just placeholders until what King calls someone “with the charisma and style to revive heavyweight boxing†comes along.

    And that “someone†is very likely not a white man.

    King, of course, is playing on world history here, even though in implying that Germans love the Klitschkos not only because they are white European men, but because they are white men who beat up black men, he misses the irony that Adolf Hitler considered Eastern Europeans to be inferior, the “untermenschen.†The Klitschkos thus would make very odd supermen in the dead political ideology to which King alludes with his “stadium full of Germans†remark.

    Imagine if the situation was reversed, and if Bob Arum had said that the Klitschkos were afraid to hit a black man in the United States or England. No doubt much mayhem would ensue in the press, and not just in the boxing press. But this remark from Don King is not even challenged by the writer of the article. His racial remark is allowed to pass as if it isn’t inflammatory in the least.

    Finally, King may also have a personal reason for his animus against the Klitschkos. In the recent Klitschko documentary, Don King is shown on camera trying to con the young brothers into signing a deal with him. In an effort to impress the boys, who he recognizes as having great talent, King moves to a piano and begins playing a classical sonata. Vitali Klitschko relates that at first he and Wladimir were highly impressed, thinking King to be an artist as well as a boxing promoter.

    Then Vitali looked closer and saw that King was seated at a player piano and was only miming, not actually playing the music. The brothers decided that this little act spoke ill of King’s character, and resisted his pressure to sign a deal.

    Some will insist, of course, that the now 80-year-old Don King is an irrelevant fossil and that his remarks shouldn’t be taken seriously. But to the extent that King is giving voice to a feeling that is out there in boxing world, the remarks are indeed important.

    And King shouldn’t merely be given a pass on them.

    :crafty:
     
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    you're out of the loop

    it's an inside joke about Karl Hegman, has nothing to do with whatever racial conspiracy theory you have cooked up
     
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    People like King get away with this sort of stuff because there are people, dug in like ticks into housing projects, who have no perspective on life save the narrow-minded one they have been fed by their so-called role-models and community leaders.
     
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    Old people are racist, it's pretty much just a fact. They are stuck in the past.
     
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    For the first video....did it not have sound? I would have liked to hear Wolfe.

    The only problem that I have with that sparring session is that it wasn't halted after the other guy was obviously concussed. It's supposed to be stopped when that happens(at least for a minute or two), but I think Wolfe missed it when she was whipping Kirkland with the towel. Otherwise, Kirkland did nothing wrong.

    I've seen more heated exchanges, where one guy tried going back to his locker to grab his gun....and the other guy in the ring was his BROTHER!


    On top of all that, Kirkland is a guy who had been coming off of an embarrassing loss that definitely hurt his psyche. Whuppin some ass is good for him.
     
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    :bears: 100% AGreed with you there.
     
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    You just can't accept it can you, you are paranoid and very frustrated, or atleast that's what I've been told anyway. :crafty:
     
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    Fuck that, you with me on the Andre "Kid Conte Cocktail" Ward situation? Course you are. :truce::cheer:
     
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    :pathetic: My post in the 'Froch loose lips thread' ...is a respectful explanation of sorts.
     
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    Was giving you the ol' Cdogg treatment above ^...:clapagain:
     
  17. Irish

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    Oh sure, I spied that alright........I already conceded that it is a sort of a no-lose situation for me, unless Ward stops him in one, which would raise as many questions as it answered. AC is a mob-infested place, lots of gambling, lots of chicanery. No accident its down there. No accident.
     
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    Your posts provide an amusing insight into the perspective of a young person who's only experienced America through books and television.
     
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    And youtube. Some Arab fellas offered me an up-close tour of down-town Manhattan 10 years ago but I let it slide.
     
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    in 1972 maybe

    now its mostly crackheads and old people on bus tours
     
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    Nothing wrong with going at it hard but cheap shots ? What does that do for anyone ?
     
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    if froch can really fight at this level, he'll do well against ward in the bay area, the east coast, borneo, madagascar or the UK. instead, he'll get thoroughly whipped in a dirty shit hole of a gambling strip.
     
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    Again, James Kirkland SPARS Like he FIGHTS...



    REED:cheer:
     
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