Shane Mosley vs Ken Buchanan @ 135

Who wins and why?

 

Buchanan, obviously.

He fought Roberto Duran.

 

The only reason Mosley would win this is because he would be 150 fucking pounds on fight night

if he were a real lightweight, Buchanan would jab him silly and dance all night

 

36 hour weigh ins? Might as well match Buchanan against Nino Benvenutti.

 

exactly

 

What if it was the same day weigh in but Mosley was allowed to commit every foul possible?

 

What makes you think Buchanon wouldn't have benefitted too?

Perhaps Ken would have fought at a lower weight and took advantage of rehydrating.

 

Same-Day weigh-in and Buchanan shows what the difference between a great boxer and a speedy-slugger really is.

Remember, that the post-juice Mosley had Cotto up on his toes, out-jabbing him.

 

what makes you think we have any way of even quanitifying that?

Buchanan was actually a lightweight

Mosley was a welterweight masquerading as one

as an aside, even having weigh-ins is a joke now since NOBODY IS EVER ACTUALLY IN THEIR OWN WEIGHT CLASS ON FIGHT NIGHT

boxing sucks

 

I will add one consideration no one has yet.

Buchanan has a gargantuan advantage in experience, especially in terms of elite competition, at LW, where Mosley fought largely nobodies.

 

only in terms of actual professional fights

 

Really? So you wouldnt class sharing a ring with the Lagunas, Ortizs and Durans of the world as giving you an advantage in experience over fighting the likes of Phil Holliday?

 

Ken Buchanan was unquestionably a better fighter than Shane Mosley.

 

In fairness to King Carlos, he was a shot alchoholic when Buchanan fought him

 

I think my point holds, looking at who these guys fought at LW.

 

I don't disagree, just think Ortiz is a poor example under the circumstances he was in

Buchanan would've beaten Mando Ramos, too

 

Quite true, but he wouldn't be fighting Mosley in either case.

 

36 Hour Weigh-In's or Not, Ken Buchanan NEVER Saw Anything like Shane Mosley, @ 135lbs...Mosley HAS to B Favored Here...



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And Mosley saw Buchanan's like? How many masterful boxers with tungsten chins, razor sharp jabs and fierce will did Mosley face at 135?

 

John Brown.......:nono:

 

:laughing:

 

Im really just echoing CDogg, but the reverse is just as true.

 

a young mosley shared the ring with plenty of guys better than holiday.

 

True, but thats hardly the point is it?

 

mosley had plenty of experience. he had hundreds of amateur fights all around the world, and sparred with legends. there is no experience advantage here in this matchup.

 

You may as well say there is no size advantage for Mosley, given the weigh-in of their days.

Im not even picking Buchanan to win necessarily, but it is flat denial to argue you learn as much fighting Mosleys LW competition as you do Buchanans.

 

@ 135, Admittedly ZERO...

But is Buchanan Really UNLIKE Vernon Forrest???...N REED's Opinion, Buchanan Bears a Stylistic SIMILARITY to Forrest, Only he's SMALLER, Not as RANGY, Not as STRONG & Not Nearly the PUNCHER Forrest was...

So YES, Mosley DID See Buchanan's Like...But Again, WHEN did Buchanan EVER See Mosley's Like, @ ANY Weight???...



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VERY Good Point...

Sparring w/the Likes of Chavez, Sr., Dela, Genaro Hernandez, the Ruelas Brothers, etc., Certainly MINIMIZES Any Perceived Edge in Experience for Buchanan...



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not really

 

U've Got to EXCUSE the Duran APOLOGISTS, Ugo...By PROXY, Anybody that Duran Beat is Better than Mosley...


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