TAKE A TALENT FROM A BOXER AND RERATE HIS PLACE IN BOXING

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by lb 4 lb, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    For example:

    Andre Berto - Remove his hand speed and not only does he fall out of the top 10 welter weight but he probably doesn't ever make it on a televised card except as some no name opponent.


    Tito Trinidad - Remove his punching power and I think he still had the talent to make most of his title defenses at welter weight because he was out boxing most of the guys he beat anyway. However I doubt he's as successful at 154 and he likely would have lost to Vargas.
     
  2. jaws1216

    jaws1216 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    earnie shavers - take away his punching power, and Karl Mildenberger would beat him 15-0, Tye fields wins 12-0, and Arreola TKO 1.
     
  3. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Agreed.

    However, I am not sure about the strength of the general argument. Boxing is all about taking one talented aspect and making a career out of it. We could just as easy say "add one talent to a fighter and re-rate his place"

    Anyways, for me, take the sheer mindless bravery of Vito Antuofermo away from him and what do you get? A club-footed, cut-prone, no power bum.
     
  4. Ali

    Take away his chin and he loses to Frazier, Foreman, Shavers, Bonavena, Norton...and basically any decent punching heavyweight in the 70s.
     
  5. Whitaker, take away his defense and he loses to nearly anyone.
     
  6. floyd mayweather - take away his boxing ability and he is a shit boxer
     
  7. :atu:
     
  8. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Jose Napoles -- take away his defense, his offense, his ability to integrate the two, his genius timing and what do you get? nothin!
     
  9. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    shitty thread. and i see the vanquished punjabi has returned.
     
  10. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Nonsense.
     
  11. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Mike Tyson - remove his left hand and he would have eaten plenty of right crosses.

    Weird thread. As someone said, boxing is all about fighting with your strengths. If you take them away, the fighter would change his tactics completely too
     
  12. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Take away Wlad Klitschko's size ofcourse. You knew it was coming.
     
  13. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    You'd have Eric Crumble
     
  14. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Ouch :laughing:
     
  15. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Take away all of Terry Norris' chin and you'll have a Terry Norris
     
  16. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    take away all of Lennox Lewis' skill and melanin and you'd have a Vitali Klitschko
     
  17. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Take away Ricky Hatton's heart and you have Roberto Duran
     
  18. Stick a fork in this topic, it's done. :lol:
     
  19. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    :laughing:
     
  20. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    :laughing:
     
  21. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Take away the shop and you have Amir Khan. :crafty:
     
  22. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    .. but Duran has lost weight recently
     
  23. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Take away basketball and football and you have Muhammad Ali all over again.
     
  24. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Take away Zab's power and he is Pernell Whitaker.
     
  25. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    nah, you would also need to remove Whitaker's brain, courage, chin and heart in order to have Zab... also a considerable downgrade in skills
     
  26. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    Take away Jeff Lacy's left hook and you have someone with a nick name that doesn't make sense. Move over half man half amazing Jeremy Williams!
     
  27. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Take away Frans Botha's left leg and he probably doesn't even pass a medical to fight
     
  28. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    very astute:partie:
     
  29. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Take away James DeGale's speed and skill and you'll get God
     
  30. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    :lol:

    Take away ice hockey and you get lots of Chuvalos.
     

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