Exactly, they all fought each other except for Floyd. Also just because Cotto-Mosley and Margarito-Mosley were tough back and fourth fights does not mean any of those guys were ruined when they fought Paquiao. Everyone but Shane looked like they had a lot left when they fought Pac. So yeah they were acceptable fights for Pac just like they would have been acceptable fights for Floyd if he would have fought them. Clottey ain't great but he was a good, young, experienced, big, strong, tough, welter weight, the exact kind of guy that Floyd tends to avoid because he has no advantages. The last time Floyd fought a guy like that (Castillo) he arguably lost so he never did it again. Once again, Pac has proved himself against his toughest challengers, all we get from Floyd is excuses. Pac doesn't even need to face JMM but is trying to right a discrepancy on his resume'. However pointless it is at this point I don't mind because Pac fought every questionable challenge in his weight class to prove himself and yet I still have no idea how good Floyd really is and likely never will.
Mayweather-Ortiz is a HELLUVA lot more compelling a matchup than Pac vs old man Marquez for a third time. If Pac was fighting Ortiz, NOBODY would say anything. Trust me! People would credit Pac for fighting such a young, dangerous fighter who performed so well after Berto. But Floyd fights Ortiz, and its a farce? Cant have it both ways. Lets be honest. Ortiz aint a young Tyson, or Duran. But he IS a young, hungry, dangerous fighter. This is better than Floyd fighting Shane, who had TWO feet in the grave, and Marquez, who has NO business at 147. So in THAT sense, it makes this the most compelling Floyd fight since the Hatton. Most of us knew that Floyd would take Hatton apart, but it was a compelling fight because Hatton was young, primed, and we knew he would rush Floyd and try to win. Ortiz is a much bigger PUNCHER than Hatton, and much better suited for 147 than Hatton. Granted..... unless Floyd has turned SHOT since the Mosley fight, he'll take Ortiz apart and stop him mid-to-late, but its gonna be an exciting fight while it lasts. I have little doubt of that. Floyd isnt nearly as mobile now as he was in his physical prime. Therefore I think we're gonna see him stand in the pocket and fight with Ortiz. So yes, I'm ordering the fight on Sat, and I'm pretty fuckin excited for it! Pac-Marquez III though? Not a shot in hell I'm ordering that one. BTW - Floyd would wipe his ass with Khan! Ortiz has a much better chance than Khan, because he has the punch to legitimately hurt Floyd. Khan doesnt.
I will watch I just won't pay for it....and won't go out of my way to watch it(if i can't find a link i will wait till the following week)..... The first 2 fights were very good...but at this point I just don't care about seeing those two share a ring....
@fought each other Yeah, they fought each other and Pac fought each one after they were coming off of a career-ending beating. You really thought Margarito and Cotto seemed like they had a lot left when they fought Pac?! Cotto was just coming off of a plaster-gloved beating, Margarito had just gotten caught with said plaster and gotten his ass kicked by Shane. Who has Pacquiao fought that was coming off of a victory like that? Once again, you make excuses, and like your hero ducking Floyd, duck the fact that before Margarito and Shane lost, Roach had either said they would never fight them or would only fight them at ludicrous catchweights. Did you seriously just compare Clottey to JLC?! LOL. OK
So let me get this straight, because the division was tough as hell and everyone who fought each other had tough fights, you're going to penalize Pacquiao because some of his opponents got beat up by each other? Isn't that what's supposed to happen when the best fighters fight each other. Yet Floyd who only fought one of those guys gets excused by you for somehow missing all those other great match ups. Yeah, they all fought each other. Mosley, Pacquiao, Cotto, Clottey (whether you think he's good or not) Margarito, even Paul Williams faced off with one of those guys and he spent way less time at welter weight then your ducking hero Floyd. The only one of those guys Floyd fought was Shane. I give him credit for taking the challenge too, but that's only 1 out of a welter weight division that was littered with top ten challenges. You then come up with the bullshit myth that Pac fought all those guys coming off career beat downs, but you forget both Cotto and Margarito had tune up bouts before facing Pacquiao. And yes, I did feel they had a lot left when they faced Pacquiao. It's not like Pacquiao didn't have tough fights against those guys anyway. He came out of it bruised up, especially against Cotto. And that ain't even the point, whether they had enough left or not at least Pac fucking fought them when they were still top 5 contenders and obviously had a lot left. But as usual with Floyd all we get is excuses. Floyd's retiring or the opponent isn't a draw, or Floyd needs a tuneup fight, or the opponent needs to take an Olympic style drug test. You guys need to wake up and stop being brain washed, cause Floyd is playing y'all like a pimp.
I was on auto pilot and forget to mention it. Obviously I give Floyd credit for going right back in there with Castillo and silencing his critics from the first fight, but he made sure to never take on that kind of challenge again.
Lets look at this. Cotto Vs Margarito Margarito wins Pac fights Cotto Mosley vs Margarito Mosley wins Pac fights Margarito Mosley vs Mayweather Mayweather Pac fights Mosley Do you not see the pattern. The top 2 guys fight each other and after each time Pac has fought the loser.
Let's look at this: Pacquiao vs Cotto Margarito vs Cotto Cotto vs Shane Shane vs Margarito Pacquiao vs Clottey Cotto vs Clottey Margarito vs Clottey Pacquiao vs Margarito Pacquiao vs Shane Floyd vs Shane Everyone on that list fought each other when the division was at it's most competitive and they're all listed 4 times except for Clottey who's only listed 3 times. Yet somehow you guy's hero Floyd only managed to fight 1 of those tough competitors from the very division he claims to rule. And then the only issue you guys bring up is when Pacquiao fought them? Who gives a fuck? At least he fought them. The point is Floyd didn't. He's a ducker. Better to see a great fighter fight the best coming off a loss then not see a great fighter fight the best at all which is the case with Floyd.
haha he also ignores the fact that Cotto and Margarito are both Arum fighters, and Arum is notorious for protecting his fighters from those outside his stable, and generally keeping everything in-house
I love it. Floyd fans are like a delusional broken record, refusing to give an ounce of credit to Manny. Yet giving credit to Mayweather for fights he never took. Must be nice living in the fantasy world they all must be living in. Open your eyes!
Floyd provides so little entertainment in the ring, he'll be nearly irrelevant without his undefeated record.
Bullshit. Ortiz has nothing for Mayweather or Pacquiao. The guy isn't that good, end of. Khan himself would fucking batter Ortiz like a Scottish pizza for a start, never mind Floyd or Manny.
I just read a pretty interesting stat about Ortiz. In 33 fights, he has scored a knockdown on every opponent he has ever faced. Is this true?
Wow! If it is, it's not clear whether I should be impressed by his power, or disgusted by his finishing abilities.
Should have known it was BS. Must have came from Floyd's "He's a hungry young lion" campaign. :laughing:
It's Probably "DROPPED or STOPPED" Every Opponent he's Ever Faced...Ortiz DROPPED Maidana a Couple Times in that Loss & Dropped Lamont Peterson in their Draw... REED Seems to Remember Ortiz Mentioning Dropping the Other Guy that Beat him, when REED & Cupey Interviewed him Years Ago... REED:shadow::shadow:
Yep...@ the 8:30 mark he Discusses the 1st Blemish on his Record... http://fightbeat.podomatic.com/player/web/2008-05-30T06_29_54-07_00 REED :shadow:
I just opened a relevant history book and in the very first sentence this is what I read: "Amir Khan, born and representing Bolton England but of Pakistani origins, was knocked the fuck out by Breidis Prescott in one single round." :finger: Destruction and Mayhem has the facts on his side!!
You also missed the other facts about him being brought in as a sacrificial lamb to Ortiz's backyard and proceeding to beat seven shades of shit out of "Vicious" Vic. Or the fact that whilst he went on to become the main man at 140, Prescott went on to do fuck all and recently lost to a guy Khan beat with ease. So shut yer noise ::
It's hilarious, I've never known anything like it. Floyd gets credit for not fighting people by his pathetic groupies ::
Nah...Floyd gets credit for wining titles in 5 weight classes over 15 years and being.......... UNDEFEATED!! Destruction and Mayhem is wearied by trying to educate these fools!!
