Floyd vs Pacquiao now?

Perhaps to a degree, but it's not easy to hit with power when your feet aren't firmly planted. As is often said the punch you don't see coming is the one that hurts you. I don't think anybody disputes that, but a guy like Meldrick Taylor would have a much higher KO percentage if he had Pacquiao's power.

 

What a surprise...

"I don't need Pacquiao. Where was Pacquiao in 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 when I was dominating the game?

"He never asked me (for a fight) when I was in my twenties or when I was in my teens."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/14966167.stm

MTF :shit::shit:

 

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That's so fucking-fucking I can't even bring myself to address it.

 

If Floyd died in a car crash I would crack a cider, butter a scone and sigh contentedly.

 

:giggle:

 

Why? We'd be robbed of the biggest non-heavyweight fight in history.

You're not a boxing fan, William Wallace! :nono:

 

we already have been and will continue to be robbed of it

 

Not necessarily. Have patience my young padawan.... :rock:

 

Sly, my friend, the fight is never going to happen

 

you're wrong. It will be the next fight for both Fyd and Pacquiao. just wait and see...

 

If it is, I will come to Toronto and watch it with you

 

I'll hold you to that.

However

If it did come off...I man is going to Vegas to see it live. No doubt. Boxing event of the century.

 

I'll just house-sit for you and the Missus, then:giggle:

 

i thought he said "in my tens"

i thought that was awesome

 

Floyd Mayweather = ATG

Who cares if he is annoying and can't speak English properly?

 

He's top 30 all time

he could be a shoe-in for top 10-15 if he beat Pacquiao... that is why I am annoyed

 

Again...can you reallly name 20 fighters in history better than Floyd? Seriously?

 

absolutely... there are guys with just as much dominance and far superior opposition

 

All time greats challenge themselves against the best of their contemporaries.

Floyd, instead, says things like:

"I don't need Pacquiao. Where was Pacquiao in 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 when I was dominating the game?

"He never asked me (for a fight) when I was in my twenties or when I was in my teens."

MTF :bangh:

 

For me the only fighters arguably or actually better than Floyd are:

Ali
Robinson
Jones
Duran
Armstrong
Pep
Whitaker

I may have forgotten 1 or 2 for the time being but no more than 10 at most. Objectively that is. Floyd is an absolute genius in that ring. Ridiculous talent. I mean..how many fighters can be beating down a guy in a title fight while they are having a conversation with the announcers?

 

20 such guys? You trying to tell me that you can name 20 guys as dominant as Floyd (42 fight streak) with better opposition as well. Please share with me.

 

Ezzard Charles

Ray Leonard

Monzon

just like that, we have ten guys without breaking a sweat

only a lunatic would think it is an insult to "only" be one of the top 20-30 greatest fighetrs EVER

 

42 fights... Archie Moore, Pep, Robinson, Charles, they had that many in 4 years... if you are hung up on the numbers

Robinson was 128-1-1, Pep 135-1-1

 

Wilfredo Gomez did just that against LaPorte... talking to announcers AND Hector Camacho at ringside... what's your point?

 

It's just a big leap of faith in your own judgement considering what we've seen Floyd measured against in the ring. I think that's the key point.

And for that reason I won't even try to answer who's better than Floyd or not (since it's only speculation) but I'd be pretty comfortable naming plenty fighters I suspect would have been as dominant as Floyd against the standard of guys he's beaten. Hell, a prime De la Hoya for one.

 

yup

 

Put Floyd in the 1940s where, as a GOOD Black fighter, he's got to face VERY DIFFICULT opposition a dozen times per year... you think he's not going to lose some fights here and there?? he'd still be an all-time great, but he'd have a dozen losses sprinkled out over 10 years with 90 wins or whatever... same as Archie or Ezzard or Sandy Saddler... that doesn't mean he isn't awesome, just puts W/L in perspective

 

Same here.

 

Sly isn't very well versed on boxing history. He's only focused on what's immediately in front of his face.

Once Floyd is broke, comes back loses a few fights Sly will be on to the next one completely forgetting how badly he wanted a spot next to Floyd's nuts. We've already witnessed this with Roy Jones.

Let's be real, Sly's a guy who thinks Ray Robinson is overrated and Treach from Naughty By Nature is one of the five greatest rappers of all time. This ALONE disqualifies his opinion on all things related and unrelated to boxing.

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