Floyd vs Pacquiao now?

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I'm no rap connoisseur I admit. I've always enjoyed Treach's style of rapping...but as a lyricist (sp?) I admit he's mediocre. Marshall Mathers is top 3 all time though..even though he's a whiteboy.

As for Ray Robinson. Yes he's overrated, but he's also the best of all time. The only guy IMO who is arguably ranked as high or higher than him all time P4P would be Ali.

 

Again, based on career accomplishments the greatest ever is clearly Ezzard Charles. Proofs in the puddin' homeys.

 

Charles did very well for himself, for sure.

Todays fighters are fucking faggots by comparison.

Ironically, the weakest division, supposedly at Heavyweight, has got more guys I would vouch for versus the old timers, than any other division.

Victor Ortiz would have been so badly ass-raped by the 1997 Welterweight division of Carr, Oscar, Tito, Quartey, Campas, JL Lopez, Pernell etc.

Camacho Jr would have kicked the living shit out of him.

And if you run the clock back to 1947? Yeah. I'd love to see a 162lb Jake La Motta vs a 162lb Ortiz. Or the likes of Basilio matching him for workrate.

I don't want to sound like Ramonza {"Romanza" :laugh11:} but guys like Ortiz are veritable fuck-sticks that would be lucky to last 1 week as a sparring partner back in the 1990's, and wouldn't be allowed into a gym in the 1950's. But today he is WBC Champion material and the recipient of a multi-million dollar shot vs a consensus pfp #1/#2 who won't make the biggest fight in boxing? Sad.

You've got guys like Khan, who seems eager to learn, but he has not much chin and nothing, nothing, in the line of survival skills. Maidana, just too unskilled to last. He'd be getting the Vince Martinez treatment. He'd keep getting up, and he always has that punch.....but when an old, and recovering alcoholic in Erik Morales is buzzing you with lead left-hooks, you have to wonder. I give Maidana credit for being a hard-man, at least he's not a future Scripps in-patient like Ortiz.

 

I think some people here are so funny...

to think Floyd is "scared" is ridiculous

to think Floyd is "a bum" is even more silly

I bet Floyd-Pac happens in 2012

 

That straight right hand of PBF will do damage for sure.

 

only one of these statements is true

 

:giggle:

 

Start of 1977, end of 1978, respectively. It's basically a 2 year age gap, which can be a huge difference in the mid 30s.

I'm on my iPhone now, I'll explain why I think Floyd's style is vulnerable to age related degradation later on.

 

WHO said that?

 

i'll find it.. someone here said he was a bum

 

Only person off the top of my head that said he was a bum was qwerty

 

btw...I've analyzed the May-Pac fight factoring Floyd's new agressive style and have come to the following conclusion:

Floyd will win by stoppage in the 9th round.

This is how it will play out:

Floyd will win the first round handily (Pac tends to be shaky in the first anyway).

Pac will respond late in the second and possibly score a flash KD

Floyd will resume control in the 3rd landing the lead right hand at will...beginning to get Pacs left eye puffy.

After that Floyd will be punishing Pac with check left hooks and lead right hands and dscouraging Pac's offense with his counterpunching.

Pacs eye will be closed by the sixth and his nose bloodied.

A few flurries 3 rounds later, and although Pac isn't severely hurt, the closed eye and the facial damage lead the ref to call it.

Remember this prediction because it's exactly how the fight will play out.

 

NO....you just finish watching Mayweather vs. Mosley...

 

You're just like that prick who ruined the end of Usual Suspects for meissed:

 

Yeah slystaff what the fuck!?

Spoilers are a bannable offense.

 

OK, so the reason I say Floyd is more vulnerable to age-related degradation than Pac for their fight

- Floyd is 2 years older (obvious)

- Floyd relies on speed to exploit openings for his offense, what little power he has at 147 is partially predicated on his speed as well

- Floyd heavily relies on timing and reflexes for both offense and defense - he uses very little excess movement when he's slipping and deflecting punches. Both of those things are already going for him, imo.

- Floyd doesn't have Pacquiao's durability at 147. This will come into play once he slips enough to get tagged cleanly more often (and that is already happening).

- Pac is on EPO and probably a few other things. That is an obvious game-changer in terms of preserving youth and physical/athletic attributes.

So I'll take back that Floyd's style is more vulnerable to age-related degradation than Pac's on a 1:1 basis.

But for the purposes of their fight, it still applies that Floyd is more vulnerable to age-related degradation than Pacquiao is.

 

Thats pretty logical alright, the only thing is we don't know that Pac is on EPO, If he is, then yeah, I can see what you are saying.

 

I like the way he states Pacquiao is on EPO &, "a few other things," as though its an after-thought.

 

Loadedgloves has mentioned them in specifics in other posts, some sort of a testosterone supplement, IIRC.

 

I guess he's the authority then. Screw drug testing, let's have this guy look at people, he knows!!!

 

Come on. :truce:

 

Absolutely. Floyd's cherry picking routine is pretty fucking crucial to his precious undefeated record.

 

They all "know". And how they know is apparently it's "obvious" that Floyd has inside info on Pacquiao and his camp, reportedly via a CTU style mole.

 

Pacquiao has the speed and reflexes to catch PBF when he throws his stupid right hand lead, or his careless lead left-hook.

 

I doubt it.

Nothing careless about Floyd's "check hook". Guys just don't see it coming.

As for the "stupid right hand lead". I have to laugh at that statement. ::

 

Not talking about the check-hook. I'm talking about his lead left hook that he throws by jumping at his opponent. Pacquiao has the speed and reflexes to make PBF pay for that. Pacquiao knows how to fight.

 

Pac is FAST but he's not a counterpuncher.

 

Oh he's not. Oh well. Cross D&M off as someone worth talking to.

What was it again that put Cotto on his ass?

Correction: D&M doesn't sanction Pacquiao as a counter-puncher because Pacquiao can do more than just counter-punch, so acknowledging he can counter-punch makes him seem just a little too good compared to Floyd the non-competitor.

 

Are you suggesting that Floyd can ONLY counterpunch, Double?