Wlad offered JMM a fight

I've said this before. I agree. And it's why I was surprised when the rematch between Wlad and Peter was announced. I'm thinking, didn't his brother already take care of Peter? And wash away his less than impressive first outing with Peter?

With Sanders, the rematch never happened. And nobody really seemed to care, because Vitali took care of him.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=5634667

 

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=31405

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Dimitrenko?

The day has come I root for Wlad. athetic:

 

Well...if Adamek has signed to fight the Italian Debt Collector, and Harrison is fighting Haye, and Vitali is fighting Briggs...and Povetkin won't take the fight, and he has already whupped Chambers/Chagaev/Peters.....who does that leave?

 

I'll be damned, the fight's happening

 

Aren't you a Pacquiao fan?

Yes, Floyd who has never been above 150 lbs on fight night blew up to 160 for his fight with Marquez. Makes sense.

 

We know he gave up over $500,000 to avoid making 144. Now, that means he was well over 144 to begin with. He might not have blown up, at all. He just wasn't down at 144 in the first place, was he? He weighed 146 and it is unlikely he got any lighter between then and fight night.

OK, so I exaggerated, but Floyd was coming in at 150+ by fight night. He was 146 on Friday, and the midget was 142, having previously never fought higher than 135.

It's easy to "never come in at over 150" when you never get weighed on those occasions you are over 150. Sure, he has never come in at higher than 150, because on those occasions it didn't suit him to get weighed, we didn't know what he really came in at.


Now, I'll take it a bit further. Ortiz came in with this famed, much-storied "functional weight advantage", which was played up by HBO in an attempt to make us all feel that it was a close, dangerous fight, which of course it was not.

Now all of a sudden, we see Floyd welcoming the post-weigh-in weights being made available, and we also see a commentary team which seems, superficially at least, to be saying that weight can and do make a difference.

So, if Ortiz had won, would we have then be able to say that Ortiz only won because he was 15lbs heavier than Floyd??

The bottom line is that Floyd had a massive size advantage vs Marquez, a size advantage which was downplayed no-end, in order to make it a fight worthy of $50, and then the same size disadvantage was played UP in order to make the Ortiz sham a competitive fight.

Ballax.

 

This is a dumb post.

First, there's the obvious fact that Floyd doesn't care for drying out, it's why he's at 147 in the first place. He's never been a guy who struggled to make weight, at any weight class.

Second, there's the fact that Floyd weighed in at 146, not 147.

Third, there's the readily apparent arrogance of Floyd.

Given these three things, what seems more likely to you -

That Floyd, a highly disciplined gym rat, is going to come in weighing significantly more than he does in every other fight in a fight where he has no need for a size advantage? That it's just when he gets weighed that he only puts on 3-4 lbs max for fight night? That he somehow can lose and gain muscle easily for individual fights, or chooses to put on fat for individual fights?

Or that he just didn't give a shit about making the catchweight for that fight, because he knew he didn't have to?

In any case, Floyd's size advantage against Marquez was discussed ad nauseam everywhere - yes, even on 24/7. Obviously HBO is going to pull whatever bullshit they can to sell fights.. but I have no idea why you're complaining to anyone here about that. I guess it fits in with the theme of you holding everyone in a given country responsible for the views expressed by selected members of that country's media.

 

Wlad should avenge Vitali's loss to Solis.

 

Solis should avenge his loss to Burger King.

 

Solis should get the contact details of Chuck Wepner and ask him how being so shit, so slow, so fat, so white and so bald was so acceptable back in the 70's, and why he, a Brother, Cuban Brother at that, can't get any love.


Legendary

 

Did Floyd have a "Functional" weight advantage the night he fought Marquez?

 

Yeah, obviously he did. edit: though I don't know why you're adding in "functional." If you mean it was an advantage Floyd employed or made actual use of, then no, I don't agree with that based on how the fight went

I don't get the point of you posting Ali falling against Wepner, btw. Ali tripped.

 

If you look at some of the post-fight write ups,.. "On his way to victory when injury struck" ...a bit like Byrd - Vitali I guess. Still and all Solis would be game enough to fight Wlad,.. unlike those protected European pussies,.. I never thought the day would come when I would agree with James Toney.

 

Can you post these write ups?

 

Go and look for them yourself. Do some REEsearch for once in your life.

Listen- I once got an email from none other than Steve Kim in which he referred to Vitali as "Quitali Quitschko"...very humourous.

Please stop acting as if these people don't exist, as if them and their narrow-minded way of going on doesn't exist. You are starting to sound like a Sinn Fein politician.

 

The problem is that these articles on websites slide down and out of the archives after many months,.. but I remember posting you a link to the Boxingtalk editor going apeshit about "A punch not landing!!!" if you can remember, ...the Sweetscience also declared little to no punch landing before more or less suggesting that Solis was 'on his way to victory' :shit:.. as did a few other varieties through the google news portal.

 

"What happened was that his right knee twisted while he was backing up. It was that bad step that hurt Solis, not Vitali’s right hand. It’s disappointing to see Vitali taking credit for having hurt Solis when it’s pretty clear from the video that Vitali’s punch had no power on it. Solis was actually the one throwing the harder punches in the fight and dominating the round at the point of the injury. Hopefully, Vitali does the right thing and give him Solis a rematch because it would clear up a lot of the mess and make his fans happy.


Vitali looked timid as Solis was attacking. The punch that Vitali landed was more like a jab than an actual punch. No way was Solis hurt by that weak shot. Instead of trying to make excuses to his angry fans, Vitali needs to be talking rematch with Solis. That is the only way to quiet his critics"

:cheer::cheer:

 

Would anyone argue with Vitali giving Solis a rematch? Or should he challenge the Hopkins-Dawson winner instead? After all Larry Holmes fought Michael Spinks!!!

I think Solis is a decent fighter, was doing well in round 1, I certainly think Vitali was going to win.... but the injury happened, let's see it again. I would watch.

 

I wouldn't argue but I would want to see Solis drop 10lbs and come in a bit more cut, that way we would know he was a genuine world contender with mad skillz yo, not like guys like George Foreman or Tony Galento. The day of fatsos is over yo, no fatsos yo.

Then when Vitali, by then aged 41, kicks his ass, we could say that he defeated a true warrior, cos the guy would be all jacked-n-six-packed.

 

Ding ding ding ding,.. we have a breadwinner indeed,...security for the housewife. :cheer: I think that war pooch got a scroll in the jowls!

 

The injury ocurred because he got a clap up the trap,.. his legs buckled, and he fell to the floor,.. now if you are not affected by the punch,.. you'd have no trouble sitting up, you dont use your legs to sit up,.. but Solis couldn't at first,.. he was acting like someone copping a shoulder in Rugby,.. where thier head feels like 50lbs and they struggle to sit up,... Vitali knocked him out,.. end of story.

 

No, no....its...fat...heavyweights..Germany.....didn't try....functional weight advantage.....Cuba not the same since Castro got old....Cuba is gone soft...Cuba is spoiled...Nobody in Cuba wants it anymore......Cuba vs USSR is so 1980's.......Evander Holyfield would have.......both of them......on the same night, yo.

 

Does that mean that he picked Solis against Klitschko, or thought Solis was winning?

 

Yeah, Galento was a real worldbeater.

George Foreman was fat in his prime?

 

It means people don't like Vitali, and Steve Kim is one of them. Thats what it means. I would love if Kim came on the record more often.

 

Galento was a contender for the title, same as Solis, and just like Solis, he fought for it.

George Foreman wasn't fat in his prime.

Michael Moorer wasn't fat in his prime either.

 

I think Solis might be the 3rd best heavy, but I would rather see some of these top challengers fighting each other prior to getting title shots. Solis had a very easy path to a title shot. Chisora was on his way to a gift title shot. Adamek didn't do anything at heavy. etc.

 

Adamek did more at heavy than Chisora did. In fact Adamek might have done more at heavy than Haye had. ::

Solis needs to prove he is serious about the game. He needs to get away from Germany, move to Greece, try a bit of austerity in his life.

He would destroy he entire British scene in the morning if he put his mind and heart into it.

For Wlad, I would love to see him fight Tyson Fury. Every half-eared, wooden-rosary-bead-wielding scumbag would be at that. And Tyson would be looking like an octopus out of water.

Vitali should also try an appearance in the UK, Sky love a bit of him, He can come on and do his "who is the strongest one :NotThink:" routine.