Ricky Hatton deserves the utmost respect.....

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  1. Hut*Hut

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    I see no reason to think Calzaghe was clearly better. If he'd ever fought anyone as good as Pac or Mayweather he would have been mangled.
     
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    He was far more adaptable than Ricky, and nobody would "mangle" Calzaghe
     
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    Calzaghe was a slapping aerobics instructor masquerading as a prizefighter


    fuck him
     
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    Let it go cdogg, let it go.
     
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    Calzaghe was no slapper
     
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  6. Jimmy

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    Hatton beats Khan at 140.
     
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    Absolutely. Foot-Speed and the fact that Khan can't take it downstairs would be the deciding factor. That and the fact that Amir really isn't all that good to begin with.

    As for this Calzaghe debate, I do think Joe had a few more strings to his bow.
     
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    Are some people on this thread seriously suggesting that Hatton was a better fighter than Calzaghe? :scratcher:
     
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    I liked Hatton for recognizing that he was protected and not properly challenged fighting in U.K., and his subsequent decision to fight in the U.S. And he was smart in the sense he presumably made a ton of money in England, and then fought the best in the U.S. He could've easily ducked stiff competition in the U.S. and a lot of people would think he was a better fight than he was as a result, and give him credit for beating guys he didn't even face. But that's not what Hatton wanted.
     
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    Tim Bradley is far more 'adaptable' than Julio Cesar Chavez. And he's UNBEATEN!
     
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    I'd say they're on about the same level, actually, as the results in their career illustrate.
     
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    Calzaghe was clearly a better fighter than hatton. Hatton beat Tszyu and Castillo..very good victories, no doubt..but Hatton could have never utterly dominated guys like Lacy and Kessler the way Cazaghe did.
     
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    'Adaptability' and 'bow strings', do not a better fighter make - it's just an attribute like any other. The results against comparable fighters & their manner are the 'pudding' here and the demonstrative proof that Calzaghe was not a higher level fighter to Hatton at-fucking-all. Just go through the Ws & Ls, the rounds won and lost, the calibre of fighter they come against.

    People think they're too smart to be influenced by seeing a guy retire unbeaten vs the impact of seeing a guy KTFO (against the best of the best), but these factors settle as the DEFINING IMAGES of a guy's career. Calzaghe won his 'big nights' and gets filed away as a 'winner', Hatton ends up on his back on his biggest nights and that's what flashes up like a spliced cinema frame when his name comes up.

    Emotion trumps cold analysis, and in the end CYNICAL HUSTLING trumps genuine competitive spirit and ambition.
     
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    Frankly Lacy is no better than Mallinagi, Urango, Tackie, etc. All of whom Hatton completely dominated. Lacy was a nothing.

    Calzaghe didn't dominate Kessler. It was even after 9.
     
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    Lacy = Garbage
     
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    fair enough.
     
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    Brilliant, then we're all agreed, at last! Phew! :mj:

    All together now! - ♫♪♫ Calzaghe is a wanker ♫♪♫ Calzaghe is a wanker ♫♪♫ Nananana! Nananana! ♫♪♫ Calzaghe is a wanker ♫♪♫ Calzaghe is a wanker ♫♪♫ Nananana! Nananana! ♫♪♫

    Feebes, you too - join the conga line! :egypt:
     
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    Your rebuttal was good and so I give it props. However anyone with eyes to see can clearly tell that Calzaghe was a better fighter than Hatton and quite frankly, Hatton doesn't beat the version of Hopkins that Calzaghe beat, p4p.
     
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    I don't see any reason why not. In fact Hatton would be well suited to do just what Calzaghe & Taylor did - out hustle him, outmuscle him, out work him, outspeed him with quick feet etc. Wright, Pavlik & Tarver were ALL low output guys who could be neutralised & let Hopkins do the only thing he could still do very well at his advanced age (and consequently inflate our perceptions of just how good he still was).

    A career lightweight as old as Hopkins with Hopkins abilities (aka stamina problems) vs Hatton? I could certainly imagine Ricky out hustling a close, unimpressive decision there.
     
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    Even after 9 :lol:

    Sorry Hut I could agree with POSSIBLY even after 6, but after that it was ALL Joe.

    He was clearly better that Hatton, in a p4p match Joe wins comfortably
     
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    In a p4p match Calzaghe is ALOT better than Hatton.
     
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    Based on what? Your 'eyes', I bet.
     
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    My eyes are all I need. It's just obvious he was more versatile that Hatton. I wouldn't pick Hatton to beat the version of Hopkins Joe beat in a p4p match either
     
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    Calzaghe-Kessler was 8-4 on all the cards as I recall, and I remember Kessler fading like a back to the future photograph through the last 4. So excuse my mistake, it was even after 8, not 9, with one round in it after 9.
     
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    It's 'obvious' that Chavez isn't as 'versatile' as Tim Bradley. My 'eyes' are all I need to tell me that.:limp:
     
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    Actual results & the context they create >>>>>>>>>>> 'my eyes'.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Disagree. Lewis should have wiped out Vitali if it was just based on competition faced, my eyes told me it was a tough fight for Lewis, and I were right
     
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    Nah. Vitali's won just about every round of every fight he's been in other than against Lewis. 'Results'.
     
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    As has Calzaghe :dunno:, he's had two competitive fights his whole career, one of which is blown way out of proportion
     
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