Trinidad (Prime) vs PBF @147

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  1. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    PBF has been much more aggressive lately. If you look at his fights with Mosley and Ortiz he's actually more in the pocket then usual. How does this PBF fare against a Prime Tito Trinidad? I say he gets KTFO. Tito aint slowing down and if Ortiz and old Mosley were able to touch him up then you can bet Tito was gonna find him.


    Tito TKO 7 PBF
     
  2. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Mayweather has a few shaky moments but wins a decision.
     
  3. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Mayweather has a chance of stopping him late but the smart money is on Tito to outbox him
     
  4. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    If he tries to stand there like he did Ortiz or Mosley he gets flattened.
     
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    The thing is: Mayweather can stand in the pocket and STILL not get hit. Trinidad would always be dangerous but Floyd would win the decision.
     
  6. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Cmon now.
     
  7. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Funny. Ortiz got to him a few times and he's nothing compared to Trinidad! Staying in the pocket against a beast like Tito is very risky.
     
  8. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Mayweather would only stay in the pocket against Trinidad in spots. He wouldn't fight like he was James Toney and be flat footed the entire night.
     
  9. Hut*Hut

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    I'd lean towards Mayweather
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Mayweather will win....because he will NEVER fight him....instead Mayweather would fight James Pages, Oba Carr or Mexican pot head surfer...
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    This is 50-50... Floyd has all the skills and quickness to make it happen, but let's be real he's never been hit by anyone like Trinidad and he's never been in with a 147 pounder anywhere near as dangerous... I could see Floyd win every minute for 6 or 7 rounds and still be in danger of getting hurt bad... Trinidad was stupid and a sucker for a jab and good footwork, but the guys who did that to him were bigger, stronger guys than Floyd is... and while Floyd certainly has a good jab, I don't think stylistically he's much like any of those other three (two, officially) guys, he's much more of a Toney/Starling/Moore counterpuncher with more mobility than those guys... I don't know that lead straight right sharp shooting is the best strategy against a taller, stronger man with a fast, brutal left hook... To me, it's not as simple as "Trinidad's a moron" in this case... like I said, I could certainly see Floyd winning, but I could just as easily see him getting hit more often than he's ever been hit
     
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    I remember this being posted in a MM at Max many years ago as a joke, when Floyd first moved to 140. I picked Floyd and people thought I was crazy.

    Floyd EASILY, EASILY beats Trinidad. I don't see what Tito would possibly be able to do with him, he could replicate De La Hoya's effort and do it 100000000x better.
     
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    he doesn't really fight like that

    nor does he have Hoya's level of power
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I didn't literally mean he would fight like DLH, though I think Floyd is capable of fighting in pretty much any style he wants to..

    He has enough pop to keep Tito honest and he would sit down on his shots more than DLH did.

    Tito has a puncher's chance, which we all know means no chance, especially against Floyd.
     
  17. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Dont be blinded by the smoke screen. Look at who he has fought in the last few years. PBF is a excellent matchmaker.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    sly, you the others probably believe that....
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Personally I think Floyd fucks him up
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I would probably lean towards Floyd, but I don't believe for a second that he would be aggressive against Trinidad. Not a PRIME Tito at least, whom is underrated these days.

    If we're talking about Mayweather circa 2009-2011, then this is a VERY DANGEROUS fight for PBF. He's in there with a big strong hard punching welterweight who can hurt him at any time and BADLY.

    I say Floyd gets a good start early and piles up a lead, Trinidad comes on in the midrounds and forces PBF to back up alot like he did against Baldomir. My gut tells me that sometime in the late rounds PBF would get badly hurt by Tito and is forced to hold on and survive. He's game and he won't go out. But he'd be put to the test.

    But I don't think Mayweather would have ever gotten in the ring with a young Trinidad.
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    The only guys who were ever able to really land clean and hurt Floyd had exceptional handspeed and/or awkward styles, and they only did it when Floyd stood flatfooted in front of them.

    Trinidad is about as straight up a fighter as it gets, and slow to boot. Floyd would dissect him.
     
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    nor was trinidad in his welterweight prime when he fought delahoya.
     
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    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

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    Correct. The way DLH fought Tito is nothing like the way PBF fight's at 147.
    Anyway Tito put's PBF into retirement (Without fighting him).
     
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    And Hoya was?
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Fair enough. I can see this happening. PBF will be in survival mode for sure. He will not engage Tito after he felt the power.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Mayweather clearly. Even though Tito is a somewhat dangerous fight to anybody at welterweight, Mayweather just has so many tactics and the ability to protect himself so well when needed that he should win
     
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    Trinidad was very overrated
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Thats pretty much it.

    Mayweather COULD beat Trinidad, but he wouldn't have the confidence to try. He retired to avoid fighting Cotto, basically. And I think Mayweather would have beaten Cotto.

    But he doesn't wanna put himself to the test.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If you were to ask me, I would say that Oscar was in his 147 pound prime, whereas Trinidad was struggling to make the weight for a couple of years at that time(Remember he was gonna move to 154 to fight Norris before it got cancelled).


    To me, Oscar started to slow down when he moved to 154. His legs were gone, his reflexes slowed, and his stamina got worse. But he got by on his hand speed, exeprience, and decent power.

    But against Tito at 147, he was all intact.
     

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