Not to mention that Hoya was perpetually on the verge of getting hurt in that fight. And though most people think he won, the fact is there's a reason he didn't get the decision.
He might have been, but no sympathy for guys who stick around the weight for a few fights after. It's like how Corrales couldn't make 130 for Mayweather, yet campaigned there for years afterward.
delahoya bitching about weight? :atu: the only bitching he was doing was over having a rematch with trinidad at 149lbs instead of 152 or some shit. that queer CLEARLY wasnt interested in facing trinidad at super welter.
Fair enough, I stand corrected... the Corrales analogy is a good one, and that shit is frequently repeated as FACT around here
there was no victor that night. a shitty fight with several uneventful rounds. an all around garbage performance by both fighters.
I can agree with that. Still, I had it for Oscar by a few rounds. About as clearly as I thought he lost to Whitaker.
Floyd - Wide UD. Floyd's jab would set the tone. He'd make tito miss a great deal and frustrate him. I believe he could stay in the pocket and have a great deal of success - His straight right hand would land ALOT. It's very possible he gets caught by a left hook that hurts him at some stage in the fight - but he'd shrug it off and tie tito up when necessary.
Yep. If only PBF had the confidence in himself that some of his apologists here have. As a boxing fan, I find it frustrating (and am surprised that other boxing fans don't) that such a great talent is so reluctant to seek out the greatest challenges available to prove himself a great fighter.
I had heard him bitch for a bit about it true, but at the same time he was insisting on a Trinidad rematch at 147 pounds rather than 152-154 or whatever.......Based on that alone I question just how much "trouble" he was really having making the weight. I mean if he really was having that much trouble, he too would have insisted on fighting Trinidad at a higher weight but didn't do it. Be that as it may, I think ultimately Oscar moved up to chase some big fights against the likes of Mosley and Vargas, and eventually Hopkins as we all saw, whereas at 147 other than Forrest and then Mayorga and Spinks for a bit, there was not much going on.
:: At the idea of Trinidad beating Floyd or even coming close to it. While it's absolutely true Floyd probably wouldn't have ever fought Trinidad, and Trinidad would have fought pretty much anyone, if the two ever did fight Trinidad would be lucky to win a round. He's absolutely tailor made for Floyd, completely and utterly. He'd be extra safety first too because of Trinidad's left hook, and as a result, Trinidad wouldn't come close to landing it flush. A plodding, patient puncher who needs to set his fight to punch, is very slow on his feet, and very, very predictable? Floyd would win 100/100.
:atu: Where do you guys get this shit from? Since when has Floyd ducked anyone? If anything he's oftentimes too ambitious in his matchups (First fight at lightweight with Castillo, First fight at 154lbs with De La Hoya after only a year at 147lbs)
This is reasonable. It's easy to generalize how Floyd would win simply by saying he's the better fighter (and he is). De La Hoya outboxed Trinidad. But all throughout, he was very wary of Tito's power. And Oscar's chin is way better than Floyd's. Mayweather can outbox Trinidad, but if Tito can find him I wouldn't be surprised if it accumulated or if at some point, he hits Floyd with an odd power shot and hurts him badly. Also, strangely enough, I think Trinidad's patient and methodical style would unnerve Floyd. Plus, I doubt Tito would respect Mayweather's punching power all that much. Couple that with the fact that Tito hits way harder, is bigger, taller and rangier, then it gets very interesting style-wise. I agree that Floyd wouldn't just be lunging in with those virtuoso lead rights like he did against hapless opponents like Gatti or Baldomir. Or even Corrales, who as big a puncher and threat during the time he fought Floyd, is nothing like Trinidad. I'd agree it's a toss-up. As an aside, stacking up Floyd up against the great welterweights of the 80's is ridiculous imo. I don't even see him beating peak 147 versions of De La Hoya or Quartey (Forrest would also be very tough for him), much less the best versions of Leonard, Hearns, Duran and Benitez at welterweight.
