Saul Alvarez vs Cintron?

http://www.boxingscene.com/saul-alvarez-vs-cintron-likely-signed-by-monday--44484

This fight is very winnable for Cintron! This maybe the very last shot Kermit has to make a name for himself. Thoughts?

 

The Tin Man doesn't deserve to have a name

 

I agree, but what do you think about this fight cdogg? You think Kermit has a punchers chance here?

 

I suppose he does have that, but I doubt he has the courage to USE it... this has "cash out" written all over it, to me

 

Cintron has massive shoulders, and hefts a considerable and functional weight advantage.

 

not really, his weight his reduced by his lacking a cardiovascular system

 

I was under the impression his weight was reduced by lack of spine.

But that is counter-balanced by powerful legs, bred for leaping.

Seriously, though, Canelo shouldn't risk it. I would watch this fight, but if Alvarez wins, people will just write it off like "yeah, it was Cintron, what did you expect". But if he loses.... ugh. A rather major setback. Cintron can punch, and Alvarez can be hit. I just wonder about the risk/reward of such a fight for Alvarez.

Cintron has had a weird career. I could see him winning this.

 

If Canelo is HALF as good as we have been told he is [and he isn't, trust me] he will beat Cintron, who is the anti-thesis of a professional fighter. Only in todays foetid and ever-shrinking pond of talent could a leaping amphibian like him make a living.

 

Agreed! Cintron also knows this is his last shot. Kermit can punch and Alverez is there to be hit. I think he has a great chance at pulling the knockout.

 

I agree. I dont think Canelo is as good as people think. Cintron can do this if he really wants it.

 

Cintron bugs me. I hate even talking about the guy. I was something of a fan when he was on those crappy Showtime cards (was that ShoBox back then? I think so), and had decent expectations for him as he stepped it up. I mean, the guy was a HUGE welter, could punch, was young, fought regularly, and has some talent. He had a good attitude in general.

But the guy just always had something missing. You could call it a mental thing, I guess, but frankly until the Williams fight I didn't really notice any sort of breakdowns or cowardly maneuvers. He lost against Margarito viciously, but there was no fear in him. He just got beat up.

I think, in truth, he suffers from a training deficit. Not roadwork or speedbag or whatever, I am talking about someone to take his strengths and harness them while minimizing his weaknesses. So he was, and still remains, a guy with a damn good offense and shitty defense, with a lot of holes in his style.

God, look at Andy Lee. Yeah, maybe he won't beat Sergio Martinez anytime soon, but the guy is CLEARLY better for having Emmanuel Steward. It's night and day compared to his loss to Vera. Lee still pulls straight back at times and is open to the looping right hands, but other than that I was impressed by his metamorphosis.

Cintron desperately needed that kind of tutelage, and he never got it IMO. So now, despite enduring some very difficult fights (he rematched Margarito, sorry but that took balls), he is seen as sort of a goofy, gangly, coward who jumps out of boxing rings. The ironic part of that (or perhaps you could call it sad) is that he could certainly beat Alvarez.

 

cintron doesnt deserve this payday

 

Deserve? Guys don't get paydays anymore because they deserve them, they get them because their opponents smell the money or the chance to have a soft touch. Barker vs Martinez, Cintron vs Canelo, Victoria Ortiz vs Floyd, Haye vs Wlad.....its has nothing to do with "deserves", its a $ decision.

 

cintron doesnt deserve to be on my television

 

::no argument here

 

He never impressed me and always struck me as having a weak constitution, sort of like a dictatorial state.

 

Agreed.

 

After the drubbing he took against Molina I can't believe Cintron would even be considered for a shot. He looked absolutely shot/shit in that fight. I'm not high on Canelo but he would just maul Cintron at this stage.

 

A member of his camp used to post here and went off on me years ago when I told him Cintron was garbage. ::

Somewhere around the time he was fighting Teddy Reid.

 

I would watch it...CINTRON is SHIT....Ginger should win....and he should wait...

with Cotto vs. Margarito and Kirkland vs. Angulo coming up...he could fight THE losers of those fights...


Cotto vs. Margarito....I'm pretty sure Arum knows that JCC Jr...will NEVER be ready for these guys...regardless of the punishment they take in the sequel...

 

Teddy Reid was a real fighter, he had those tubular legs and the upper body of an IFBB Heavyweight Bodybuilder. He also had some feral-street-kid story to back all of this up. So obviously anyone who whips Teddy Reid is the real deal. :: Its the sort of fight that the risk would be so massive that, if one were to win, tears might be required to seal the deal.

Big shoulders do not a prize-fighter make.

 

Why is Alvarez chinny? If not then I'd say no Kermit doesn't have a punchers chance. If Alvarez is chinny I'd say yes Kermit does have a punchers chance but I still would expect Alvarez to beat him.

Cintron sucks big time and isn't even good enough to be considered a gate keeper. If Alvarez loses then at least it's better to lose to Cintron, a guy with an overrated name and overrated punch then to some nobody down the road who's just as good if not better than Cintron.

 

I am beginning to think that Canelo is just a slightly more talented version of that utter retard, JC Chavez Jr. Now, thats what I call a dysfunctional weight advantage.

 

Ginger is not very good. If Cintron could regain the form he had a few years back, he could pull the upset.

But it seems gy has regressed. So the fraud will win by stoppage.

 

I agree the fraud will beat the fraud. :laughing:




Jokes aside I agree. Cintron can pull the upset if he can REGAIN form from a few years back.

 

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Fall Paul.

Such days we are living.

 

:giggle:

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see Cintron pull off the upset. He'll probably just find another creative way to quit, though.

 

Supposedly this one is a done deal. HBO airing a split-site tripleheader. Canelo-Cintron in Mexico, and a couple of Al Haymon soldiers (Broner and Gary Russell Jr) in Broner's hometown of Cincy.