Mosley by KO....Too young...too fast...too much power...fresh legs...more punches....Pacquiao has never face anything like that....particularly at 147...
See, this is where I stand. Mosley was effective with uppercuts, right hands and hooks to the body and threw alot of punches. Pacquiao hasn't fought a guy like a young Mosley in the ring at 147 yet. Mosley would land and he'd land HARD. I'm not doubting Pacquiao could beat a young Mosley, because I believe he very well could. He's technically better than Mosley. I just think he'd have a real hard time of it in there with a younger Mosley and it certainly would not be an easy nights work for Pac. IMO, it's a toss 'em up match-up.
Mosley pulls it out unless Pacquiao is wearing tiger trunks because according to Foreman "that messes up your vision"
Rivera gave Mosley HELL. Forest nearly decapitated him. This "Prime Mosley" was the most overrated fighter in the history of boxing. He was very beatable. Pacquiao is a phenomenon...a modern day Duran or Armstrong. Mosley wouldn't know what to do with such an animal.
The more I read, the more I'm convinced you're a student of the "what's happening now" with no regard nor understanding of the game. "Foreman destroyed Norton and Frazier. Frazier and Norton gave Ali HELL. Ali wouldn't know what to do with such an animal like Foreman." Slystaff
I'd go for Pacquiao on a closer but still comfortable UD. Hes just a better fighter. He would have to be very wary early on though.
You're a blind Mosley nuthugger. When will you realize that he wasn't as good as the hype? He's a one dimensional fighter!! Always has been. In his prime he has incredible handspeed and desire, but he was never this multidimensional fighter that you and others tried to claim at the time. He was a SLUGGER plain and simple. After two rounds of pretending to box, he'd settle down and go to war. He really fooled you with that flick of a jab he always had didn't he? Those sexy pivots got your juices flowing? It was an illusion my friend, one that I called ten years ago.
Btw, I have never claimed that a prime mosley is something special. I am saying that his style, combined with his speed and power, would be difficult to get to grips with for anyone.
This exemplifies the paradox and a classic Sly-ism. I've never said Mosley was a multi-dimensional fighter. Unlike you who was " a bigger fan of Mosley than Mayweather" and switches from year to year to the flashiest fighter at the moment. I must say, it's interesting how you'll remember who predicted what 10 years ago, yet routinely get basic facts wrong and always slate yourself on the right side of history. :notallthere: Let me correct your memory on exactly what I thought about Shane at the time... *I* was the one who saw problems with the Forrest fight long before it took place and was very clear about that. "However" it's amazing you tend to forget this. At the time I wrote a fairly extensive fight plan as to what Shane's weaknesses were and how they played into Vernon's strengths. So this notion I believed Shane was a "multi-dimensional" fighter is ridiculous. I'm sure there are guys around who remember this. In fact, I recall calling Leeder after the fight and I speaking about the fight and my pre-fight thoughts shortly after the fight. Classic classic case of revisionist history Sly. And to further shit down the throat of this historical nonsense you speak of... In 2001 the main two fights I showed kids on how to deliver jabs then move out of harms way were Mayweather vs Corrales and Barrera vs Hamed. Nothing by Mosley or even Roy Jones at the time. Why? Because I recognized both had flaws in their style that were masked by their athletic ability. Was I a fan of Shane at the time...yes. Without question. Do I think that version of Shane beats current versions of Floyd and Manny. Absolutely. That version of Shane is the worst mix of aggression and speed for either guy. Earlier in this thread you rested your case on Shane's fight with Rivera and Forrest as barometers for how Shane would do against Manny and Mayweather which is ridiculous. Neither guy is as tall and/or has the reach of Rivera or Forrest. That's why I brought up the Foreman, Norton, Frazier and Ali example. I don't mind being wrong about fighters or fights...it happens. But what I don't do is flat out lie and change my story after the fact to always appear on the right side of history.
Close fight. SSM would clearly be stronger & hit harder. However, have to go with Manny as he is just a better fighter. Interesting to note some "I know you are but what am I" action from PBF apoligists/ Manny detractors regarding Pac's willingness to take on potentailly tough opponents in the last couple of threads I've read. Quite telling.
exactly. for some reason, cdogg and others like to gloss over the fact that rematch was close/competitive. hardly a white wash for forrest, hardly an impressive performance for forrest, it was just pure shit from both guys. apparently that was all mosleys fault tho, forrest fought bravely as always
we get it, you dont like or respect the accomplishments/ability of mosley. what you just typed has little to do with the above posts. fact is, forrest had one great round which mosley never recovered from that night which enabled him to dominate the first fight. if you objectively look at the rematch you cant tell me forrest dominated, was impressive, was brave, etc. shitty performance by both men, in a close, rubbish match.
sure, but if Oscar de La Hoya had given the exact same performance/effort, you would be going on with the de La Homo stuff. Mosley was more than happy to clinch throughout the rematch, he made no effort to negate Vernon's height, none... throw a half-hearted shot, hug around the waist Its your insistence on Hoya being this gutless fag while constantly giving Mosley a free pass that I find annoying.