Edwin Valero vs. Jose Luis Castillo @ LW

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Dog Jones, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    One more Valero thread
     
  2. WAR! :jaw:

    Valero by decision.
     
  3. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Castillo.
     
  4. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    One more defeat

    how's he going to deal with the size of this man?

    I think Valero gets a lot of play because he was an exciting KO guy, who did he beat?

    He's Andy Ganigan with a lower level of comp
     
  5. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    he beat down mosquera who was a very good fighter.
     
  6. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    not sure who wins, but castillo would've gotten hit for sure and bled. valero beats everyone castillo beat imo.
     
  7. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    And Ganigan pancaked Sean O'Grady, who was a better fighter
     
  8. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    you've probably never seen mosquera fight.
     
  9. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I have and I also saw him fight Valero

    if you are already trying to play THAT card, you have shit to go on in the first place
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Castillo 8-4 in a war.
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Castillo would've grinded him down, and taken him out.
     
  12. based on what? I've never seen Valero stopped.
     
  13. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    ....or fight anybody good
     
  14. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    EXACTLY
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Valero def had a better skill set than Ganigan. More speed as well.

    BUT..... Ganigan was a bigger puncher than Valero.
     
  16. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Its HIGHLY debatable that Valero beats Corrales, or prime Stevie.
     
  17. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I can see giving the initial version of Valero that stormed onto the scene years back - when he didn't swing wildly with his chin hanging in the air - the benefit of the doubt in some of the MMs posted here. Not this one, though. Castillo by KO.
     
  18. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    I think Valero's ability is largely misunderstood. Which is fine. It was his reponsibility to prove his ability, and he killed his wife and himself before he could do so. But my opinion is he was one of those fighters whose manner was awkward and who didn't necessarily do things by the book. But he was a very effective and technical boxer nontheless.

    Other fighters I put into this category, with not exactly pretty, but very effective and technical styles are:

    Monzon
    Vitali K.
    Antonio Esparragoza

    You can get all emotional and attack me for comparing a fighter as legendary as Monzon to Valero, who accomplished little by comparison. But if you did, you'd be missing the point.

    The point is, good fighters don't all fight alike. And effectiveness and technical ability doesn't always translate to aesthetically pleasing performances.
     

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