Final Prediction Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by ILLUMINATI, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. bigdawg

    bigdawg Undisputed Champion

    For those that claim that MAB looks better coming into this fight then he did against Floyd. What is the proof? Can ya'll provide some facts or all ya'll just hoping and wishing. Now it could be true meaning they MAB camp has never fought at that weight so therefore they might have added the weight in a smarter fashion. But what proof do we have to this point. I'll Holla 5000
     
  2. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    There are pics in the last page, right before your own post. Also, it is JMM, not MAB. Otherwise your post was spot on
     
  3. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    lol@pathetic Mayweather ball licker preemptive attempt to cover all bases in support of his hero

    MTF
     
  4. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Why not just have it at the boxing WEIGHT CLASS of junior welterweight, I wonder.

    Anyway, Juan does look allot bigger than he did against Floyd where he basically just took 8lb of fat into the ring with him.
     
  5. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    What are you talking about? The only thing that could possibly make Floyd look bad is a blowout, but that of course should be expected based on Pac-huggers reaction to Mayweather-Marquez. But because Marquez is older, slower, and heavier now it should be more competitive? GTFO.

    If Marquez at this weight is REMOTELY competitive with Pacquiao, Floyd will DESTROY Pac. That's the hard truth that Pactards like yourself are rushing to mitigate.
     
  6. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Stating facts, nothing more, Flomo.

    Do you deny that this juiced Marquez looks much bigger/better than the one who fought Floyd?
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2011
  7. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Essentially yes. Anyone who denies this is a blind groupie, like that scumsucker loadedgloves.

    I fucking guarantee you he says there's no size difference and they look exactly the same, and Marquez was no fatter when he fought Floyd.
     
  8. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    :lol:
     
  9. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    sure he looks bigger. we shall see if that translates to better. he's also older and more shopworn.


    hopefully his timing is on point because marquez looked "slower than corn syrup" in the 24-7 footage they showed of him hitting the mitts and sparring.
     
  10. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Yep, and that's exactly why I said "Is it even going to help?".

    I clarified that in the post that retard loadedgloves quoted.

    I'm not even sure the bulking up is necessarily a good thing. Pacquiao has a field day on slow fighters.

    Marquez was probably better off working on his speed, trying to be as fast as possible, especially considering Manny is so used to fighting bigger, slower fighters.
     
  11. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    He looks older, slower, and heavier.

    A pathetic ball licker is one who shits on Floyd for fighting Marquez at 147 and then gives PAC a pass for it 3 years later, when Marquez is 38.
     
  12. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    And got tagged a lot by Katsidis previously, to boot.

    PAC ducked the rubbermatch years ago and is fighting an older, heavier jmm that got punched by Floyd in the same weight class 3 years ago because he expects it to be easier now. If it were Floyd in this position, you'd be crucifying him.

    Do you think being bigger (and slower, and older) would have helped jmm at all in the mayweather fight? I mean, considering he couldn't even touch Floyd to begin with?
     
  13. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    i think it was a bullshit fight for mayweather jr and not one of the top dozen or so victories of his career. all things considered.

    it is a good fight for pacquiao. good money, and an interesting match up that i want to see.
     
  14. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    lol at heavier. No, fucktard, he looks bigger/more muscular, and less fat.

    Do you know what he weighed for Flid? 142, the EXACT same as he is here. No heavier, the difference here is he is carrying 7 pounds of extra muscle rather than 7 pounds of extra fat, you nuthugging retard.

    For the record I think it's ALMOST as much of a bullshit fight as when Floyd fought him. On both occasions JMM was old and blown up, and doesn't belong at this weight.

    I expect this fight to be pretty one sided, I'm not even sure the PEDs are going to help Marquez much.
     
  15. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    The fact he's clearly carrying about 3-4lb extra muscle and 3-4lb less fat. Muscle tends to be more useful in sport than fat.
     
  16. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Yeah, that's probably one of the worst posts I've ever seen.
     
  17. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    I hope it's good but I think PAC is gonna look spectacular and blow him out.
     
  18. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    ha, was gonna say, not one of bigdawg's best posts :lol:
     
  19. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    I know what you are saying, but David Reed suffered from having a ridiculously low body-fat level. The kidneys, heart and liver all need that fat in there to stop you from being broken up into bits by body shots.
     
  20. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    I see you are still an anrgy little man. How original.

    MTF
     
  21. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    Oh, and mouth, for the record I am one of JMM's biggest fans. Defended him here for years in fact and argued vociferously that he won the second Pac fight close but clear. To suggest that I'm pulling for Pac here is bogus. I actually want JMM to win because he should hold a W over Pac already. The only reason to want Manny to win is to keep alive the Floyd-Pac superfight.

    MTF
     
  22. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Both of these guys are pedding.

    Manny's face and skin are just.......not normal. Luxuriant.

    I still fancy Manny over 12.
     
  23. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

    No-one is doing this, though. I'm not even going to bother to stay up and watch the fight. I think it'll be a blowout because JMM is too old and totally out of where he should be fighting. I'm watching neither Pac nor Floyd until they fight each other. All other fights are unimportant to me.

    MTF
     
  24. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    As someone who thinks Pacquiao got shafted in their first fight and clearly won the rematch, who doesn't like JMM, who used to like Pacquiao before he became a track marked piece of shit, and who is picking Pacquiao to dominate the rubber match...

    the very best outcome for this fight would be a one-punch KO by JMM. It would serve both Floyd and Pacquiao right and probably cost them $15-20 million each even if they did eventually fight.

    Then I'd like to see JMM and Pacquiao both get caught juicing and lose big chunks of their purses for this fight.

    There are at least two things every fan of the sport should be against right now:

    1. PEDs; and
    2. WBA putting interim champs on the same level as regular world champs and actually getting away with it
     
  25. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    That would be good for the sport would it mike? Pacquiao losing to JMM?
     
  26. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    I won't be staying up either. I shall content myself with a fill of Chwis Jr and Tyson Drury and then hit the hay.
     
  27. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    lets say for instance,

    pacquiao is the wba welterweight super champ

    mike jones beats randall bailey to become the wba champ then is inactive for 8 months

    tim bradley beats andre berto for the wba interim belt

    you dont think bradley is on the same level as jones?
     
  28. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    it would be great for the legacy of the legendary juan marquez. one of the greatest technicians of the past 20 years.
     
  29. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    It depends on how much your frame can support without sacrificing speed. Jmm to my eye looks too bulked up for his size, and I think it will hurt him more than it will help. I expect he'll have put some water back on tonight as well, depending on what he's using and if he's still using it.
     
  30. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Apparently fighters need reminding from time to time that if you sit on a matchup, shit can happen that screws up the matchup. This would be an example that would be referenced 30 years from now. If it helped make future matchups come to fruition, it could end up being good for the sport.

    Even if it is bad for the sport, and it certainly could be, fuck your juice bitch and fuck Floyd for not figuring out a way to make the fight happen by now.
     

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