Pacquiao Excuses Come In As Expected

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Muzse, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Everytime the guy is in a good scrap there's something wrong with him...


    http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ro-rogers_manny_pacquiao_foot_cramps_111311



    I was left with the impression the "win" wasn't satisfactory for Pac and team. I had the feeling Pac wasn't sure if he won and the sustained and loud boo's reigned down on him surprised and hurt him.

    Freddie Roach didn't seem he felt Manny won clearly.

    This fight hurts Manny more than JMM in my opinion.
     
  2. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Fuck Mayweather and Fuck Oscar.

    MAKE THE FIGHT.

    In the interim...stop talking.
     
  3. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Didn't roach say on the corner to pac that he was behind on the scorecards, in the latter rounds of the fight? It was a Marquez win, no doubt. If I watch the fight again, i'll still say Marquez won.
     
  4. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    marquez is a legend
     
  5. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

    Pac and Roach knew they lost [​IMG]
     
  6. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    I'm really starting to dislike Roach and Pacquiao..
     
  7. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Roach is the real slime in this. His whole outfit reeks.
     
  8. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Roach knew pac lost
     
  9. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Even if he telling the truth about the foot cramps it doesn't make sense it would show up only on fight night. He should have felt similar things during training and sparring.
     
  10. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    I think he might be telling the truth about the cramps as he said the same thing after the Mosley fight, but yeah it's a bit weird they'd only show up on fight night, unless they were related to nerves or something.
     
  11. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    That's just It, PRIOR to the Fight, Roach & Ariza Claimed Pac had "His BEST Training Camp EVER"...Roach Even Suggested that Manny REALLY Wanted to Put Some HURT on Marquez...

    Now they've Gone to the OPPOSITE Extreme...



    REED:limp:
     
  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    People call me classless when I say I cant wait for his Parkinsons to advance, but I maintain it.

    Roach is a piece of shit. If he didnt have the shakes, he'd be one of the most hated figures in the sport. But because he has the shakes, he gets a pass for being a prick.

    Fuck that!
     
  13. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm


    Well that bullshit you hear all the time from almost every fighter's camp.

    However foot cramps shouldn't just appear only when fighting. It's not like a guy off the street playing a new sport and using muscles they aren't used to exerting. Those cramps should have showed up in sparring from time to time. If they did they should have went to a foot specialist immediately and not just expected them to go away.

    This is especially the case as Manny complained about them in the Mosley fight too.
     
  14. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Roach is Usually Pretty STRAIGHTFORWARD about Manny's Camps...REED's Heard Roach Express CONCERN about Pac Arriving to America LATER than he'd Like &/or the Number of Distractions Pac has...

    REED Doesn't Know that he's EVER Heard Roach Say "Manny Had his Best Camp EVER", Until THIS Fight...



    REED:Lok:
     
  15. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm


    Well i just don't think it matters either way. If Pac is having cramping issues with his feet and they appeared in previous fight(s) they should have had them looked into before training camp even started.
     
  16. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I wish Pac would just say that Marquez is a great fighter and Pac has won 2 close fights rather than saying he cramps or his socks hurt. Just give Marquez credit.Why not just say those fights could go either way. The judges like my style better. There is no shame losing to Marquez or fighting close with Marquez.
     
  17. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Manny said the sae shit after the Mosley fight. That was the reason he didn't KO Shane.

    He lost to Morales because of the Winning gloves, wasn't the first Marquez fight bad socks?

    It's always something with the guy.
     
  18. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    He has too much love in his heart.......


    Manny is gonna have face cramps after Floyd is done with him.
     
  19. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Pac and Roach are filth. Arriza is filth and Khan is an opportunistic cheating whore. None of them deserve a pass. I think part of the problem with corruption and cheating in boxing is that the rift, the fault, the tectonic friction is potentially so seismic that everyone tip-toes around it. Its gotten too big and threatens to blow boxing apart, so they move gingerly around it. Roach is a key mover in that area, and he's a rude guy to boot.
     
  20. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    It was hilarious when Roach was talking about he'd beat up Roger.

    Roger was a world class fighter. Freddie was a fuckin BUM. Roger woulda fucked up Freddie when they were fighters, and obviously would still do the same.
     
  21. boxerpuncher

    boxerpuncher Undisputed Champion

    Did he say that really? Dude was nothing but a tomato can club fighter. Roger Mayweather would have decapitated his ass.
     
  22. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    the excuse with the socks is one of the funniest of all time
     
  23. Trey KO

    Trey KO WBC Champion

    Maybe they will say Pac has diabetes...:scratcher:
     
  24. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    didn't they say similar shit after the first fight? something about blisters on manny's foot.
     
  25. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Yep...that was the bad socks excuse.
     
  26. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I'm not buying any of the excuses either, nor did I put any stock into the "our best camp ever" insistence going in.

    One thing worth mentioning, though, regarding this one - Marquez stepped on Manny's foot while punching, no fewer than a dozen times during the fight. Bound to happen in righty v. lefty matchups, but just curious if same frequency occurred during Shane fight. If so, there's the pattern for foot cramps, and why it's not happening as often in sparring.

    Of course, they're not the first two righthanded fighters Manny has faced. Just saying, there's an outlet for support (to a small degree) for this one. But in the end, it's still excuses.
     
  27. Trey KO

    Trey KO WBC Champion

    But Jake, Manny is a lot more active than Shane. Manny moves his entire body constantly (upper body and feet), whereas, Shane has a lot of upper body movement, particularly his hands. By the way, Marquez was doing a lot more bouncing around in this fight, too that's what may have led to more foot stepping.
     
  28. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

    lol I just noticed this
     
  29. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB6gEExQrqA&feature=youtu.be
     

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