Floyd Mayweather Jnr vs Jake Lamotta at 160lbs

That aint why! The reason why he was able to do that against Floyd was.......




....Floyd elected to trade with him to prove his mettle!

You think if Floyd fought Augustus the way he fought Corrales, Augustus would have been averaging 75 punches per round?

 

nope...that's not what does it only. It's also the fact that he's not getting hit. No one likes to throw punches at the air.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUYhjX64pDo

I could easily envision Floyd outboxing this character, It would be unpleasant and tough for him in spots but Lamotta's too slow and predictable. Y'all are just hung up on legend.

And the great Ray Robinson is GREATER than Floyd..and is SLICK to look at.. but Floyd is a better pure boxer: more elusive, faster feet, more ring generalship. He is also quicker on the trigger when it comes to counterpunching.

 

Sly, do you think floyd could have beaten ray robinson?

 

He would make lamatta look like a two bit drunk street bum

 

No.

 

See I know that you box and so you know the game. A lot of guys here are better HISTORIANS than most of us....but they don't actually know the game anywhere near as well. There is no way LaMotta would have beaten Floyd. That 10-13 pound difference wouldn't mean shit in the ring.

Same height, T-Rex arms, big fucking target head, slow punches.

 

As I said before. No way should La Motta be favoured to win this fight. And this is a prime example of nostalgia and sentiment over logic on this forum.

If anyone has even an ounce of sense they would see that Floyd would outbox this guy silly and NEVER be in trouble the entire fight.

Just watch tapes of both of them. Consider LaMotta's style height, reach and handspeed.

Mismatch.

 

You are a moron

 

And then some...

Sly is beyond ridiculous when it comes to pumping up Mayweather.

 

Nah....I happen to see things that the rest of y'all can't see because you let your hatred for his shrewd matchmaking, inactivity, outside ring personality and the fact that he's a contemporary fighter CLOUD your vision.

I have the ability to see through all that shit and recognize a true GENIUS when I see him.

Lamotta has ONE advantage over Floyd, ONE: 13 fucking pounds.

With that Logic Louis should have lost to Two-Ton Galento.

 

you;re full of shit

my favorite fighter of all-time, the guy who I think is the best Lightweight ever is Pernell Whitaker... a guy I watched growing up... LIVE, right in front of me

Contrary to your ignorant stance, LaMotta was either the best or second best MIDDLEWEIGHT in the fucking world every year for 10 years while guys scared to fucking death of him shuffled the title around while making sure to never go anywhere near him or Charley Burley until Marcel Cerdan stepped up to the plate... He fought the best of them all 6 times... in 5 of those fights, he gave him life and death and, if you follow the accounts of the fights, arguably got gipped a couple of times... In the 6th fight, drained as fuck, he still managed to be even with him for a good 8 rounds before he was finally fucking exhausted, and even then Robinson, who hit 5 times harder than Floyd, had to hit him practically non-stop to finally force the stoppage... he was a tremendous middleweight... extremely strong, relentless, obviously a retarded chin... and he was a skilled brawler, he knew how to get in close behind the jab (which is easily seen if you have ever seen a fight of his) and he was a brutal body puncher... Floyd has nothing with which to get his respect, he doesn;t throw very many punches (a fact that is not likely to be any less true if he is coming in heavier to try and make up the difference) and his tactic of fighting off the ropes is suicide against a guy who lives to put his opponents in that very position... Mayweather is simply not big enough, nor strong enough to handle Lamotta... he would be pushed around and then some... Lamotta isn;t fucking Vinny Pazienza no matter how much your dumb ass might think

Floyd could never handle a guy like Lamotta

 

If this was Rocky Graziano, you'd have a point... because all he had was a screaming right hand and courage, but Jake Lamotta is a vastly superior fighter

 

Your "logic" does not resemble our Earth logic.

Sorry, jackass...but you can try to pretend you are objective (despite your ridiculous biases) and anyone who calls you on your bullshit is not...but that is not remotely the truth. And it's not like you let that bother you, because your complete disdain for anything resembling the truth is well-known.

So, troll and spam about your man-crush all you want...but it's just more lies and bullshit from you.

 

All Stafford sees here is "blah, blah, blah, Floyd, blah, blah, blah, blah, Floyd, "blah, blah, blah, Floyd, blah, blah, blah, blah, Floyd, "blah, blah, blah, Floyd, blah, blah, blah, blah, Floyd..." His tiny brain immediately discards all facts.

 

Why was lamotta's KO ratio so low? I've only seen a few fights of his, so I always wondered about that.

 

quality of opposition was very high for a long time, thanks to not having "the right management" ... he was an accumulation puncher all the way in an era where they didn't exactly go out of their way to protect fighters either LOL... there's got to be literally 100s of fights in the 1940s alone that would be stopped by a modern, more sophisticated referee

Even really hard punchers from back then... Ike Williams, for example... have, by more recent standards, very low KO percentages... Hell, even Sandy Saddler's KO percentage isn't really that high of you think about his reputation

Even in a more safety-conscious time, even the 1970s (amazing as that seems, given how bad some of those stoppages or lack thereof were) LaMotta probably has another 15 stoppages on his record... if he's a mob-connected guy early in the 40s, he probably has more because he has easier comp

But make no mistake, LaMotta was not a banger, he was accumulation all the way

 

Actually no...Cdogg may curse and sulk but he does at least try to give some context to his position. I respect that. Your posts are just embarrassingly childish and incompetent.

 

Well at least you admit this. We're getting somewhere now.

Lamotta may have been tough and great chin and serious relentlessness..I'm not disputing that, but he didn't have the height, reach, speed or skills (not enough power either) in order to make those qualities relevant against Floyd's quickness and ring generalship.

I'm not trolling on this topic btw...I'm deadly serious.

if we had a time machine and could make this happen (::) I'd bet you $500. I'd be very confident.

You wouldn't be as confident if it were possible...you are only this confident because it is not possible and the majority of the forum would back your position.

 

Your posts sound like a used car salesman trying desperately to sell cars he knows are not as good as he is making them out to be.

Fanboys cringe from embarrassment when you post.

 

Bullshit. Stop spinning. LaMotta was a FAR superior fighter than Graziano.

 

I'd be confident enough to bet $5000 on it

 

You'd lose alot of money and your woman would leave you and ask to be my concubine! :giggle:

Just kidding (about the woman thing)

I laugh at this matchup actually, because I know that there is no way Lamotta could win this one. There's no logical argument when you consider pitting them against one another...that favours Lamotta.

Any argument is one based upon emotion and love for Lamotta's toughness and career and the fact that he wa sthe first guy to beat Robinson. But if you consider him and Floyd in the ring, Floyd with the longer reach, who would appear taller because of his style...Floyd's movement, reflexes, relative handspeed, intelligence, countering, slipperyness (copywright D&D, 2011)..Lamotta wins two rounds at best.

 

You go ahead and let me know when Mayweather faces a single guy over 135 pounds worth a shit and then we'll talk

Until then, a guy who carefully outboxes Carlos Bumdomir is getting his abdomen caved in by Jake LaMotta

 

athetic:

 

Joey: "there's some guy says somebody called Floyd can take you"

Jake: "point the motherfucker out to me, I'm gonna open his hole like this"

 

The style he displayed against Bumdomir is exactly the style he'd need to imploy to dominate Lamotta. Jake was bigger, tougher and better than Carlos...but so what. Liston was bigger tougher and better than Henry Cooper...Clay dominated him same speed.

Jake aint caving in no abdomen for a guy that's moving blocking and countering him all night. When has Floyd succumed (sp?) to bodyshots in the past?

 

:laughing:

 

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