Brutally honest, I find this "Hate the Queen " shite to be far worse than any manufactured, contrived racism that we see touted around by the tabloid press. Stokes' father and their ilk are hooked into real bigotry, real entrenched shite.
Yeah, I wouldn't care except when there's some connection made with an Irish identity, most Irish would be fond of Celtic but either bemused or irritated at the sectarian shite...
I think some of that comes from the fact that the reality of the North, and the reality of Glasgow is entrenched in Sectarianism because it's a daily reality of those places. I think one of the main reasons it is seen as "WTF?" in the republic is because it hasn't been a harsh reality of life there for almost 100 years... I think too often people simply dismiss the North as "madness" without any context being considered. In the republic, "Catholics" are a huge majority, it is absolutely "IRELAND" ... Time/history stand still in the North... the conflicts that plagued the south for centuries are still firmly entrenched in the North. Obviously, the violence has largely subsided compared to what it was once like, but I think it's simplistic and far too dismissive to paint it all as just some silly lunatic fringe thing... When do people fiercely cling to their collective identity? When that identity is threatened... if you are an Irishman in the North, you were a second-class citizen for centuries, you are still the minority, but you have a fairer shake than you used to, which is good... Even from the Unionist side, their entire identity is wrapped up in isolation, the constant "threat", real or imagined, of a hostile southern takeover... thus, the roots of the conflict. I think too often it is forgotten how ROI came to be... does anyone seriously doubt that a Collins or a Pearse would be viewed as a terrorist/criminal/scumbag by the press today? I have no doubt about it. ONe man's terrorist, another man's freedom fighter. Please understand, I am not in any way trying to say "Gerry Adams = Michael Collins", but I do think it's preposterous to simply say "yeah, that's all just crazy nonsense perpetrated by terrorist psychos" when looking at the North. The issue is so much more complicated than that, it's far more ambiguous. ROI became a reality, whether anyone wants to swallow this or not, because of what would today roundly be called "terrorism"
They have Liverpool next. Away. Maybe they will lose that one. I have a feeling that United will beat them at Old Trafford. Oh wait. :kick: If Citeh win the league I will be delighted for two reasons: 1. United didn't win it. 2. The press fucking hate Mancini- not because he's Mancini, but because he's a wog that is making life hard for Slur Alex. In otherwords because he's Mancini.
LOL Joemul has been abit quiet of late, hasn't he. "Joemul, lad, you been secretly auditioning for x factor of late, without your fighbeat bros knowing, like?"
And we know him and Caligula were doing dress-rehearsals at a Karaoke gig. I think the time has come for us to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 10. Let's face it, we better come up with 10, because nobody else will. ::
If only working class boys growing up in Port Glasgow, the east end & North Lanarksire understood the 'real entrenched bigotry' Dubliners face. Kumbaya.
seriously, that was what I was getting at as well It might as well still be 1900 Dublin in NI and where you live, the way all of that ancient Orange shit is still so prominent...
Oh I see, the Queen has her hand down your trousers, does she? You buy and sell in the Mighty Sterling, and have your cocked checked once a month by HRS NHS doctors. Oh aye the struggle, the struggle!!! Just what heinous villainy the Royal Family had visited on a criminal running a lucrative liquor house on Dublin's fashionable Fairview Strand is not immediately clear to me. IRA IRA!!! :shit::limp: It's a pretty safe guess that Queeny doesn't like Prods from Belfast or Glasgee in any case. Its not like she has an Ian Paisley mug or an Andy Goram shirt now is it.
:: Nobody actually hates the Queen or cares about the Queen, you know that fine well. 'Queen' is just the archaic codeword for the cunts across N.I. and the W.O.S. who spend weekends at social clubs with her portrait on the wall. Maybe 'Stokesie's Dad hates the huns' would be a more literal expression of the sentiment, but then Stokesie's Dad has probably never met a hun, and slagging Lizzy makes for a more jaunty song, no? But you're right the song is silly.....which is the spirit it's meant in.