Nice sig, Jones, but why does it say Welterweight, not Feather? Who makes those, anyway? Ive seen a few now, and they always look very authentic and well-done.
The guy who made it had an accident, but it's still a good poster, I'll just post it on my sig anyway. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9528 Many great posters
:giggle: the poor guy... I know he was a punk and a goon, but Vargas was a good boxer, well-schooled and he had loads of courage... he just had that vulnerability of the jaw
Also couldnt bring his 9-iron into the ring, which you have to figure he at least wanted on hand for the De La Hoya fight. That woulda taught Oscar to leave a fellow pugilist floundering in a snowpit. Best story ever, that ::
Vargas was actually really good. Good skills, good speed, good power, decent stamina, and a LOT of heart. Very good all round fighter at world level. But at elite level his chin simply wasn't up to the task, he didn't have the punch resistance to be an elite fighter.
I can tell that you're a lawyer, that's a lawyer's court room defense response. :: You know that we're not comparing Vargas with hearns here...I was merely responding to the following quote: Hearns had vulnerable whiskers and he's really good. So there are fighters that qualify in answer to your qeustion. I'm not saying Vargas is one of them though.
word. It's all relative of course. Relative to the elite fighters of the sport they were vulnerable...but of course no one is saying that they were Bruce Seldon Vulnerable, Adilson Rodrigues Vulnerable, Marvis Frazier vulnerable. They were just definitely hurtable fighters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWXGplV5Jb4
Well, I would say that Hearns has an okay chin; his vulnerability there is definitely overrated. Vargas, on the other hand, had almost no chin at all. MTF
This is nonsense. Pre-Trinidad he displayed good whiskers against Quartey, Wright, Raul Marquez. If he had no chin at all at least one of those three would have at least dropped him. He also went almost 12 rounds with a Prime Trinidad in a back and forth war. After Trinidad he seemed more vulnerable to punches but still he almost survived De La Hoya and Shane in the first fight (if was only stopped because of the eye). Perhaps you don't know what "having almost no chin at all" means?
so ridiculous Leonard landed about 100 flush power shots on Hearns before he managed to drop him and Leonard hit way fucking harder than Floyd or Pac-man... he was also one of the best finishers I have ever seen Even in the Hagler fight, Hearns absorbed an incredible amount of punishment Tommy was one-punched only one time in his career, on the desperation home run shot of all desperation home run shots ever landed... Barkley failed to stop the even more vulnerable borderline shot Hearns in the rematch Tommy didn't have a great chin, but he sure as fuck had more durability than Vargas or Terry Norris
Wright and Marquez punch about as hard as my little sister And Quartey (who was not a jr.middleweight and was never a big bomber anyway) definitely shook Vargas several times in that fight The "Trinidad took Vargas' chin" theme is so false... it's the last vestige of the old Tito fanboyism of the early decade
Maybe I'm missing something, but unless Eubank is asked to cut off his head (or at least his boxcut) in order to make 154, I don't see how this is a competitive MW fight.
Yeah, Nando wasnt meant to be a middleweight. Nando was the PERFECT junior middle. Way too big for 147, but too small to compete at 160. Eubank would have finished Nando within 6.
