DelaHoya:It's Arum that's stopping Mayweather-Pac

I mostly see it that way also. For multiple reasons.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/stor...topping-manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-fight

 

and around and around and around and........

 

There's been enough blame to go around.

At this point, Arum is probably the biggest obstacle.

 

I agree.

 

I hope Arum dies of cancer

 

Arum knows what will happen if he lets that fight go. But dosent Manny Pac have the final say? He can demand the fight to happen or he can break the contract with Top Rank.

 

Welcome to the bandwagon, everyone. I've been saying this for at least two years now.

 

there was alot of blame to go around at that time... but now that the smoke is clear it seems arum is the only one showing no interest.

 

When it wasn't Floyd..it was Pacquiao...if it's not those two bitches..is Bob Arum...fuck 'em ALL....

 

I haven't heard anyone talk yet about the match-makers TR has that they're so proud of, one of whom was interviewed during the Pacquiao/Marquez preliminary show.

According to Arum himself, he can look to his match-makers to know exactly how a fight will play out. Which means regardless if the match-makers are 100% correct all the time, TR relies on him to know which fights to make and which ones to not.

And so it's not unlikely that TR's match-maker has put the red light on a PBF/Pacquiao fight, in which case, everything else like venue, date, money and drug-testing aren't relevant, and just manfactured excuses as to why the fight can't get made.

 

I agree...

Now that the smoke has clear for Mayweather...he can see.."whatttt?? I can beat this guy, the fuck was I afraid of...?"...

 

Floyd should of fought him years ago for real,he was scared for nothing.

 

the smoke has cleared?

you mean now that PBF feels as sure he can beat him as he did about Ortiz, Mosley and JMM?

so before, PBF was not so sure he could win. but now he is.

are you saying PBF won't face anyone he thinks could beat him?

 

You've changed your tune quite a bit recently BTG, weren't you a big Pacquiao believer like a few months ago? ::

 

I'm just keeping it 100

 

I alway's take whtever DLH say's with a pinch of salt.
However maybe Manny's last fight has changed PBF & Arum's minds.

If it's just that Arum really wants a definitive victory over Marquez, that's never gonna happen.

Best to put it to bed & get on with Pac-PBF.

 

right now Arum is to blame. He is the only one pushing for Pacquiao/JMM 4, when everyone else wants the Mayweather fight.

Roach and Ariza recently put pressure on Pacquiao saying he needs to be his own man and deman the the Mayweather fight from Arum.

Of course Manny will say he is just a fighter and that his promoter does the negotiation! :wack:

Arum should not take Manny's last performance as a reason to delay the Mayweather fight. IT should be the reason he does it now.

Manny is slipping. He better make it before somebody comes around and beats him beofore the big payday.

 

This.

 

:NotThink: YES......

 

arum is full of shit but at least he is heterosexual

 

Why doesn't Manny ditch Arum? Is he really THAT tied up legally? Manny is a superstar and has more money than the Philipines...he can promote himself and get this fight on.

 

I don't understand why Arum would block a fight just because he thinks Manny might lose.

It's a shitload of money for everybody, win OR lose. :scratcher:

 

Not necessarily. Arum has much clearer window than us into financial implications of pbf/pac.

 

contracts...don't you remember when Pac signed with Golden Boy while still under contract with Top Rank?

 

me too

 

word.

 

No you have not, you've been accusing Pac of doing drugs and being scared of the test.

You too Sly. You have been blaming Manny, Not Arum.

 

must I post the links?

 

Arum may well be the biggest obstacle to this fight, but it is foolish. Apparently he believes in the existence of a "no-risk" career path for fighters like Manny, when no such thing exists in boxing.

Manny's performance against JMM has little to do with how he would do against Mayweather if the fight were made soon.

Even if Mayweather outclasses Manny as the fight wears on, what is Pac going to do, give up? He will come hard for 12 rounds as always and never stop trying. In addition, I think part of what we saw in Pac/JMM 3 was Marquez coming in hyper-motivated to prove something, and Manny coming in "ho-hum" to another fight against someone he thinks he beat twice anyway.

Manny comes in to a Mayweather fight extremely motivated. Maybe moreso than any other fight in his career. And if everyone chooses to jump on the "Manny is slipping" band wagon using tried-and-true FAULTY logic of "last performance" analysis, then Floyd is slipping too, IMO, after the Ortiz debacle.

From Arum's standpoint, this fight makes a ton of money, and unless it is a devastating win for one fighter or the other, there is probably a rematch on the horizon anyway, which will bring more money than Pac/JMM 4 anyway.

Even if PBF KO's Manny in 4 rounds, they would make it out to be "a fluke" and have all kinds of propaganda about how Pac wasn't prepared for the fight, he has regained his fire, blah, blah, and they make another fight.

At this point, for both men, I am having trouble seeing the downside as opposed to their other options. They are getting old, and there is not much out there right now for either fighter, as evidenced by Arum pushing for Pac/JMM 4, and Ortiz pining for a Floyd rematch. Come on.

 

Arum IS Manny. Manny doesn't make the decisions, it's Arum.