Joe Calzaghe v Gerald McClellan

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  1. broadwayjoe

    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Wrong yet again, dumbbell. :lol: Even though it's the truth...I didn't say it.

    What's awesomely funny is that Stafford claims to have me on ignore, yet still takes shots at me. Sounds like a hypocrite and a coward to me.
     
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  2. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    I don;t class Hopkins as one either

    He's better than Calzaghe, though
     
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  3. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    He isn't, but at least your fair about the whole all-time great shenanigans
     
    Slice N Dice, Nov 24, 2011
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  4. cdogg187

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    I was a Hopkins fan during his younger days, but he's become the most overrated middleweight of all time... was he good enough to trouble anybody? certainly, is he top ten? absolutely... he had 20 title defenses even if 10 of them were tomato cans... so, yes he was top notch... but his quality of opposition was downright hideous with maybe 3 exceptions and he was not always dominant even against some really awful guys ... that has to count against him, the same way I count against Calzaghe

    Make no mistake, I class Bernard as the better of the two, but this isn't Calzaghe vs. Ezzard Charles being discussed here either, not by a long shot

    I think as time goes on, Hopkins stock will lower to a more realistic level
     
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  5. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I agree Hopkins is over-rated as a MW. He'd be in my top-10 or 12 all-time, which is no mean feat, but to see him in the top 3-5 as I often do...:lol:
     
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    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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  7. meetthefeebles

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    Great video

    MTF :lol:
     
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  8. Hut*Hut

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  9. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Legit pishing @ at that video
     
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  10. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Meh
     
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  11. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    :laughing::laughing:

    Tears @ him on the heavybag. *Favourited*
     
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  12. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    the 'noble-art' anti-christ
     
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  13. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Still wins
     
    Slice N Dice, Nov 24, 2011
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  14. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No elbowing, low blows, butting or quitting
     
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  15. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Yep no hurting his opponents in any way! Viva leap-slap amateurism.

    Mays well just go the whole hog and wear 20 ounce comedy mits and fight with reinforced fencing head protectors.
     
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  16. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    There's allot more dignity in smart offensive cheating than there is in touch-score slapathon victories. Punctuated with the occasional premature stoppage win via slap avalanche bemusement. Certainly more dignity for the sport.
     
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  17. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Calzaghe is Copernicus. Calzaghe is van Gogh. Calzaghe is Goethe. Calzaghe is Ali. Calzaghe is a genius who renewed the game and showed us the way to tomorrow, but the masses will recognize his greatness only after he is gone. What a tragedy, and what a man!
     
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  18. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    There's no dignity in cheating. It means you can't win clean. Fuck Hopkins.
     
    Slice N Dice, Nov 24, 2011
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  19. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Nah, successful offensive cheating just shows you CAN and get away with it. Most fighters don't have the nous or awareness to (seriously).
     
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  20. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Yeah coast through 9 years of a title reign avoiding any real challenges then beat two superior contemporaries once they're in their 40s. Then retire undefeated.:bow:

    A visionary strategy which future generations will definitely take note of.
     
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  21. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Nonsense. Cheating is cheating, and it's something you resort to when you're out of legal ideas.
     
    Slice N Dice, Nov 24, 2011
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  22. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Zero defeats, zero cheatings to win, zero quitting, zero excuses, zero stomach cramps, two victories over all-time greats, incredible athletic talent, mind of a genius. Joe! JOE! JOE!
     
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  23. Hut*Hut

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    Simply not true. It's something certain fighters do consistently and preemtively. If they're crafty enough to get away with it. Guys like Pedroza, Saddler, Charles, Duran & Hopkins aren't going in with flying Victor Ortiz headbuts, they're just bagining hips and kidneys, thumbing on the refs blind side, following through with sneaky little elbows - breaking a guy down. No desperation involved, they do it when they're 10-0 rounds up, when the fights even, whenever. Just a requisite awareness of their surroundings and presence of mind.
     
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  24. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    A true craftsman.
     
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    Calzaghe is trash
     
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  26. Destruction and Mayhem

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    That's Undefeated, Dominant, Lacy/Kessler/Hopkins beating trash to you sir.
     
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  27. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    I have more respect for guys who can win fights without having to resort to underhand tactics. Cheating is cheating and it's never cool.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    As far as my respect for boxers I have respect for those who can hurt their opponent and not get hurt. And do it with composure. That's the M.O. of the noble art. The martial foundation of the sport.

    Pity-pat-slappy-leap-amatuers and escapologists get no respect from me.

    Maybe they're nicer people (maybe not) but as boxers they're a fucking corrosive barnacle on the hull, the lot of them.
     
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  29. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Old-Hopkins is more of an escapologist than offensive cheater by the way. He sucks too.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Hopkins was faking like a bitch trying to get Joe DQ'ed or have points deducted. So he was obviously getting hurt in there as he didn't want to fight anymore. Nothing cool about that.
     
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