Round by Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito II

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  1. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Yeah it's a bit early, but I have a boner for this fight...



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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    I might not be home tomorrow night. Can you do the rbr now?
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    you will be deflated after margarito beats the fuck outta cotto (again)
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    NOT really...I haven't made a prediction yet...I don' t think..:scratcher:

    Even though he won almost every round I still didn't like how Cotto looked vs. Mayorga. He looked chubby, slow and no power in his punches.

    Plus the gloves look huge, were they 10oz...will they be fighting with 8oz tomorrow?
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    what does a prediction have to do with it, brian?
     
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    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

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    I have a chubby too over this one for El Guapismo.....Miguel Cotto contra El Feo...Tony(El Americano) Margacheato!...GS
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    The fight won't be a great spectacle, but it will be interesting.

    I'll be watching.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    This fight's gonna be immense.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I bet you for laughs it isn't.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    How so? Both guys seem in destructive mood. It won't be a stinker.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Stinker? No. I already said I'm interested. Perhaps we just have different definitions of, "immense." To me, that's a Vazquez-Marquez III, or an Ali-Frazier I.

    This will be an interesting affair, but it won't live upto the first fight, which was pretty damn good (not great).
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Not at all. This one has a different type of feel to it. Down to what's happened, of course. It's bound to be epic.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Their first meeting was just sparring.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Bam Bam Rios re-weighed, and is still overweight. He forfeits the WBA title
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Yeah, this fight can't just be considered a normal fight, in a way it's more tense and "epic" than something like Marquez Vs Vazquez 3.

    Plasterito beat Cotto with wraps, though they're both pretty warbeaten at this point, it's an undeniably interesting fight.

    I do wish Plasterito didn't get this fight though, and was never allowed to fight again.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Interesting.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    It's so intriguing. Can Margarito beat Cotto, "hand wraps or not", or, can Cotto beat Margarito to prove "the hand wraps" were a huge beneficial to his opponent and he can beat him and taste sweet revenge and justice.
     
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    Like most rematches, its only superficially enticing.

    Margacheato is realistically damaged goods, not least because of the beatings he took from Pac and Shane but the simple reality is that two years have passed in any case and he was always a guy who relied on superb fitness and conditioning.

    Cotto is also damaged, damaged from the lesser-beating by Pac and the Plaster-inspired loss to Margacheato.

    I just hope Cotto breaks his face and gets the W one way or the other.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    If you were a betting man, who would you put your money & by what outcome?

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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    rios cant load up and come in as a jr middle. he must make less than welter tomorrow at 9am
     
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    I have to assume that Margarito was able to stay loose and calm in the first fight safe in knowing that his wraps would dig him out. In this fight, emotions might get the better of him, we already saw in the first fight that as long as Cotto had energy in his legs, he was able to make him look a fool.

    I would put my money on Cotto to beat him this time on a close decision.
     
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    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    I just ordered the PPV. Mark me down as an excited fight fan.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Get in there. This is must see.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    I wait till tomorrow to order.....

    Rematch the first fight now....damn Margarito walk to a lot of punches, and looked so much bigger/taller than Cotto than even if Miguel learn how to clinch it would be difficult to do so on Margarito.

    And seeing footage of Cotto training camp seem like Cotto wants to flurry with straight punches and turn Margarito, he tried that in the first fight in the early rounds for the first minute or so.
     
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    IMO the absolute key to victory for Cotto is to do almost nothing for the first few rounds. Clinch a LOT, even if it's a stink fest, don't engage at all, let Plasterito get frustrated and burn energy.

    He needs to save his energy for the later rounds. Plasterito's best asset without wraps is probably stamina, he's as strong as ever in the final rounds.

    If Cotto gasses late as per usual, he's fucked, even without wraps.

    I think stamina is the key for Cotto, or rather the ability to conserve his stamina, as he simply doesn't have great stamina.
     
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    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    I don't know man. I see what you're saying... But if I'm Cotto I might try to take something out of Margarito early. See what he has left.
     
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    I can see that side of things too but IMO it's too risky.

    If Cotto blows his load somewhat early, he's going to have nothing left late. At the best of times, Cotto is weak late in the fight, and that's Plasterito's best asset, stamina and late rounds energy.

    I honestly believe his best bet is to stink it out for 5 rounds, take as little punishment as possible, hope to frustrate Plasterito and make him burn some angry, sweaty, cheating energy, then come on late and start to fucking pop that eye and force a stoppage.

    Trying to take something out of Plasterito is all well and good, but what if Plasterito is a bit less shot than we think, and his eye holds up, he's going to be strong late in the fight, we know that much.
     
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    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    But what if he loses some of those early rounds? Margarito hasn't taken any punishment... That's a pretty big gamble, going for late rounds against Margarito.
     
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    Plasterito taking punishment isn't THAT much of an issue. Cotto hit him flush a shit load of times in the early rounds of the first fight, and it didn't do anything, didn't slow him down one bit.

    Apart from the Mosley fight, where his mind wasn't really on the job, and Mosley fought an awesome fight - taking punishment is what he does best.

    So even if he splits the rounds for the first half of the fight, I think it goes in Cotto's favour. Plus Plasterito would be frustrated by the lack of violent, and Cotto can go for the eye late on.

    I think even this shit kicked version of Plasterito is going to be tough, too tough to risk taking something out of early.

    Another thing is Cotto can't move around constantly and burn energy like in the first fight. Hopefully this time without wraps, he'll be more comfortable clinching etc, and not running/moving.

    Having said all that, early on Cotto should wisely pick a few HARD counters flush on that eye, soften it up for later.
     

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