Round by Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito II

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  1. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Looked like the Margarito from the Mosley and Pacquiao fights to me.

    Its just that his punches didn't have the same effect on Cotto this time.

    And now we know why.
     
  2. Irish

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    Anyways, a nice good feeling today about the whole thing. I hope Cotto squeezes out a few paydays and then gets out.
     
  3. Irish

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    This is BS. His eye wasn't shut in the 3rd or nearly shut in the third.

    Cotto was STOPPED by Pac and was STOPPED by Cheato and had a tougher 12 round engagement with Clottey than Pac did. Its not like he was the same fighter either.

    Bottom line is that the fight followed an IDENTICAL template to the first, except this time the punches Margarito was starting to get off by the end of the third were having a far lesser impact.

    He got off the same windmill stuff in the 4th 5th and 6th that he had in the first fight, but with a fraction of the effect.
     
  4. Garden State

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    Just got back a few hours ago...sat next to Joony part of the fight....By round six or before the fight should have been stopped. Margo had no depth percention and was missing some punches by a foot or so. His eye was in poor shape..he wioll never see again out of it as ppart of it was reconstructed to begin with. His body attack was little and not affective. From my eye he fought with way less power cause I have seen many of his fights and since the time Lujans ear went flopping he has been loading up with plaster. By the way the doctors who allowed him to continue should be investigated not by boxing but by the State Board of New York who issues their licese..they should pay a ifne or have a year or so suspension from practicing. This is a sport not a bloodletting. BTW..Boricua women are the hottest in the world...GS
     
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    :bears: This.

    Cotto wasn't the same fighter either. In fact I picked against him because I felt he was so diminished since the first Margarito match. I was wrong of course, glad I was. I was pretty sure that people would use this excuse if Cotto won tho... Margarito just wasn't the same, blah blah blah. Looked like a similar fight to me without Cotto's face becoming mauled. To be fair, Marg did land more punches the first time around. Still, I think Marg has been loading his gloves for years and this reaffirmed it for me.

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  6. Irish

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  7. Jimmy

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    Sweet revenge
     
  8. Xplosive

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    Dorin was better.

    Dorin actually had some skill. Wolak doesnt.
     
  9. Xplosive

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    I HATE to admit this (because I hate Berto), but Berto would destroy Wolak's face.

    Berto would have a right uppercut field day with Wolak. I mean, Berto is no great fighter. Hell, he's not even in the very good class. But he's ALOT better than fuckin Delvin Rodriguez.
     
  10. mexican wedding shirt

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    That's exactly what it proves, it was the same fucking fight as before, Plasterito hit Cotto a similar number of times, but without wraps the punches didn't do much.

    Face it, your hero is a filthy, cheating scumbag.
     
  11. cdogg187

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    based on?

    You keep saying the 9th round was a good round for Margarito... why, because he was acting aggressive? He was getting fuck-all done, Cotto was still hitting him... You mkae it seem like Cotto got lucky, like he was rescued... it's ridiculous, there was nothing to indicate that Margarito had anything to change the outcome
     
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    The only thing good about round nine is that the cheaters eye got closed 100 er cent instead of 99 per cent so shut and his OTHER eye by the way was getting messed up, that is made the doctors fear for their medical degree and the fight was stopped soon next round. Next thing to go would have been his ugly teeth or dentures or whatever he uses . Look at the pics they all knew they were wrong but had no balls, including Smoger, the officials and the docs....their faces told the tale...GS
     
  13. mexican wedding shirt

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    Yeah, it's an absurd notion. He was charging forward like the retard he is, walking into left hook after left hook, and stiff jabs. He landed nothing.

    It was just a desperate retard charging forward, he didn't come close to winning the retard.

    I tend to score rounds for punches landed, not eaten.
     
  14. Trplsec

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    To me, the results last night clearly indicate that every meaningful win in Margarito's career should be questioned.

    The truth is that Antonio is a punching bag with a great chin who has very little power in his 'unaided' shots.

    In my opinion, he is legitimately 1-2 as every fight before getting busted should be changed to NC.
     
  15. Irish

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    I think the Wolak fight proved a point last night.

    Wolak got his head kicked in for 10 rounds and didn't look as bad as Cotto did after the first Margarito fight.
     
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    lol@the idea of Margacheato coming on. yeah, he was coming on if by "coming on" you mean "taking a beating while mindlessly trudging forward like a retarded zombie."
     
  17. mexican wedding shirt

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    Pretty much exactly what I said.

    Mindlessly charging forward eating punches like the retard he is, because that's all he knows how to do.

    How anyone could think he won that round or was "coming on" is beyond me.
     
  18. Jimmy

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    Cotto beat the shit out of Margarito. Stoppage was fine.
     
  19. Azazel

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    But Wolak looked a lot worse in a the first Delvin fight in wich he took less punishement. Did Delvin loaded his gloves in the first fight ??? This is getting beyond retarded
     
  20. steve_dave

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    It's a terrible point by Irish.
     
  21. Azazel

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    what the hell are you talking about ?? I never said Cotto was saved by the doctor or that it was a lucky win. In fact, I said that it was pretty much a given that he was heading to a UD, I just felt that Margarito would have made Cotto life hard in the last 3 rounds and that he should have been given the opportunity to pull a miracle.

    And btw, of course he was building momentum, he was far more effective in the latter rounds than in the first ones, that was totally obvious and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise.
     
  22. Neil

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    some folks want to paint that fight as a picnic for cotto. it was a hard fight and wasnt getting any easier. despite fighting against a half blind man for 5 rounds
     
  23. mexican wedding shirt

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    Please remove your head from Plasterito's disgusting, cheating, scumbag rectum.

    Cotto "beat the fuck out of him".
     
  24. Neil

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    margarito won the fight that counted when both were at their peaks
     
  25. mexican wedding shirt

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    No he didn't, he cheated, that fight is null and void.

    Without magic wraps, the fight would have looked like this one.
     
  26. steve_dave

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    I disagree. He was building momentum in rounds 3, 4 and 5... but he had lost it by the 9th, IMO.
     
  27. steve_dave

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    No. The eye means this is a different fight, obviously.
     
  28. Irish

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    Did Margarito have difficulty landing the same sort of punches he did in the first fight?? No. He landed plenty of them. All they did was raise redness and a spot on Miguels lip. He was losing the fight but getting off plenty of the same shots which broke Cotto down the first time. Its not like he was missing because he was blinded. He was getting tagged more, maybe, but he was still landing. Stevie Wonder couldn't have missed Cotto at point-blank-range, and Margarito wasn't either.
     
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    That performance was outstanding. If Margarito had not had the bad eye, that performance from Cotto would have been too much to handle.
     
  30. Irish

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    And Ricky Hatton was cut badly in fights which he dominated. He was cut worse in the John Thaxton fight than he was in the Floyd Mayweather fight. Did Thaxton load his gloves? Is Floyd an inaccurate puncher who lacks a slashing offensive? Did Hatton suddenly become LESS cut prone as his career went on?? Better defensively? Tougher skin?? Wolak was almost stopped in the rematch because he was getting nailed on the chin with uppercuts. He was worse cut in the first fight but more badly hurt in the second. Cotto wasn't hurt OR cut in the second of his fights with Margarito. He was BOTH cut and hurt in the first.

    We are comparing two identical incidents here with Cotto and Margarito. Two identical templates. Both fights proceeded identically with the exception of the result of the endeavours of both fighters.

    One fight ended with Cotto beaten down, literally crying blood, oozing it, from multiple cuts and breaks of his skin. The next fight ended with some minor discoloration to his face.
     
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