What do you guys think of this guy?

what was the difference?

 

Of course they do. Just not all of them. A lot like the pros that way.

 

Not at all like the pros. In ammy fights the effectiveness of body punching usually does not come to play (soft gloves, less rounds) and even if you hurt your opponent with body shots you get no advantage unless the judges push the buttons, and it rarely happens with body punches. In pros even if everybody does not see you landing clean shots, you can force your opponent back and win the situation which enables you to win the round

 

*insert a raving rant about amateur boxing*

 

You're mostly arguing something else. He said they don't get scored and I said they do about as much as they do in pro boxing.

You are arguing about why body punches can be more effective in the pros even if they don't get scored by the judges. I don't disagree with that.

 

you are not allowed to discuss amateur boxing here. cdogg the czar of fightbeat said so

 

discuss it as you like. It's for jerk offs and lesbians though

 

Disagreed. In amateurs body punching rarely get noticed (I have watched plenty of amateur boxing) and if you don't get a point for them, it is useless to throw them at all for the reasons I gave. In pros you can often win rounds based on effective body punching (as you drive your opponent back and hurt him), so they do get 'scored' clearly more.

 

And now we disagree.

Body punching gets noticed when it should get noticed...when it is a clean, fairly hard shot, that is picked up by enough judges to count.

It's not useless to throw them and amateur fighters do throw them. And they do score points.

I disagree that in the pros it is 'often' the case that rounds are won on body punching. The exception is when the body punching actually hurts the opponent.

I would also say that the times that body punching does win a round in the pros (without visibly hurting the opponent) will correlate greatly with the times it is being scored in the ams.

When fighters are in close and clinching and one fighter is punching the other in the side while the other fighter is doing nothing...that will not get scored in the ams because (I believe) the majority of judges don't feel that it is effective or meaningful. It might get scored in the pros if you find a particular judge who disagrees with that position.

So I'll refine my position...clean body shots from distance get scored in both pros and ams. If you disagree with that, then we disagree.

The clinch-type body shots don't get scored in the ams and generally don't get scored in the pros, but can if you find the right judge. Of course, am boxers aren't in clinch positions nearly as much as a lot of pros so this distinction means a lot less than it otherwise might.

 

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