The WBA has Hasim Rahman rated #1

Just thought I would point that out.

 

Irish is about to tell us that, while Rahman is no longer in his (atrocious) prime, he is, "tougher," now than ten years ago.

 

And ? Rahman knocked out Lennox Lewis. To me that's better than some of these bums who did absolutely nothing in their careers and getting title shots left and right.

 

Good point. I wonder why McCall isn't rated?

 

Nino Valdes deserves a title shot!

 

Yeah but I wouldn't really mean that in any case, I'd mean like that and 4 other things.

 

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True. Youre so devious, Irish.

 

I want to tell you that the WBA is a fraudulent organization, that Briggs on steroids is not Rahman on burgers, but it could come across all wrong, so I won't say anything. Suffice it to say, neither the WBA's "Champ" nor their #1 cum-tender are worth a damn.

 

Who is their champ? Im almost too afraid to ask.

 

Denis Boystav and Deontay Wilder would both KO Rahman.....and neither one is ranked in the top 50. :34:

 

I cant stand Lewis' loss to Rahman. It made one of the first of the current breed of fat (not under-trained, but actually fatter than the average man on the street), lazy, unskilled Heavies a permanent mark in the annals of Heavy history.

 

You propped up the disgraceful choice of Briggs as a challenger. If either of them signed to fight Vitali, you'd be telling everyone here how 'worthy' they are.

 

They have two. Wlad and Povetkin. I'm guessing Wlad is some kind of 'Super' champ. I stopped following these ratings years ago.

 

I find it hysterical that Atlas puts Pacquiao on blast for "avoiding" a Mayweather fight when he's blatantly avoided putting his guy in against. A rare case of a challenger actually ducking a title shot.

It's disgraceful that off of that, he gains recognition as a beltholder. As such, good that he's stuck defending against shitty mandatories like Rahman. Worse, next on his docket after that is a targeted defense against cruiserweight titlist Marco Huck.

 

:: I'm not even sure Huck is worse than Rahman in 2012

 

Huck is clearly better and more deserving than Rahman is at this point. At least Huck has been active and furthermore he actually throws some punches. Of course, he is without a chance as is Rahman.

Jake made a good point that this is a rare era in the sense that the best contenders don't want a title fight. Liston had the same problem for a while

 

My beef w/ Huck getting a HVY title fight (paper or otherwise) is that he's not exactly a dominant cruiserweight champ, plus he looks pretty damn filled out at the weight. I can't picture him beating even the lower tier of Top 10 heavyweights - hell, he's barely beating lower tier Top 10 cruiserweights.

I'm sure he's more deserving than Rahman, but just seems like there's a lot more work to be done at cruiserweight.

 

Never quite understood the hate Rahman always got.

He was a fan friendly fighter, never a clutch and humper, always made for good action.

There was a time when he wasn't a soft touch for anyone, even when he was getting knocked out he was competitive and exciting up until that moment.

Unfortunately that time is past and he hasn't beat anybody worth a shit in over 6 years. As shitty as the Heavyweight division is right now, he still shouldn't even be in any organizations top 20, let alone a Mandatory right now.

 

doesn't everyone?

 

Huck is a glorified door man. Huck offers me an assortment of condiments, prophylactics and hand-towels when I am finished in the mens room. Thats what Huck does. He's an Albanian heavy who, perhaps in another era, would be working weekends at the Pink Danube nightclub on Brighton Beach. Huck and McBride should get together and write a joint memoir entitled simply "In Any Other Era, We Are Doormen". Available in bookshops which themselves would, in any other literary era, be open public latrines. They could follow it up with the epic "Once Were Bouncers"* and swing for the fences with "Larry Holmes Has Us Figured Out". As a gift to their loyal readers, I politely suggest a finishing flurry in the form of a collection of short stories titles chief amongst which would be "Bernard Hopkins Would Never Lose To Us" and "Kobozev"
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* The sheer double-entendre of that title should win them the presitgious "Hooker Prize" for boxing literature.

 

"Sanctioning Bodies are great for the sport"
-mikE

 

Yeesh.

 

he's so "different", Ramonza:cheer:

 

How's mY favorite ignorant bitchh doing this fine new year?

Huck has done plenty to earn a title shot. However, fighting for an interim title is not a title shot and that's all Povetkin has--an interim title.

Champions at a weight class immediately below another weight class really have done enough to get title shots at the weight class above them. All sanctioning bodies go 15 deep for voluntary defenses. If you want to argue that they shouldn't be allowed to be mandatories without doing something at the weight class, then it's at least arguable, but I don't really care about that either.

There is plenty to dislike about sanctioning bodies and in particular the WBA with this 2 belt nonsense that a lot of suckers are buying into, but they are, have been, and will continue to be a net positive for the sport despite mental midget cockbiters like you and steve_dave being unable to comprehend it.

 

you are the dumbest person on Earth

 

Disagreed. They should at least have to beat a top 5 contender in the weight before getting a title shot.

 

This isn't even a requirement for getting a title shot at your own weight class, nor has it ever been in boxing.

Even the UFC, with its super shallow talent pool doesn't require this for champions moving up a weight division. For example, GSP vs Silva gets mentioned frequently and requiring GSP to do anything at 185 to get this title shot isn't part of the equation.

 

That's nice. I'm giving my opinion.

 

I can think of at least half-dozen stinkers that Rahman has produced, or at least has been a part of. He had his share of fun fights, but fan-friendly isn't the first phrase that comes to mind when I hear his name.

 

I don't understand the logic. The fact the talent pool is more shallow in the ufc - doesn't that justify the practice? Whereas in boxing in which the pool is deeper, it's tougher to justify granting title shots to guys moving up?


Plus, even if you think it's justified to give title shots to champions moving up, doesn't it seem exceptionally unjustified among cruiserweights moving up to rheavyweight?