Felix Trinidad vs Vernon Forrest.

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by puerto rock, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    The Mayorga fight is proof that Tito's wraps gave him an advantage. No one ever stood up to Tito for that long, with that many shots previously.
     
  2. qwertyhgfdsa603

    qwertyhgfdsa603 Leap-Amateur

    he was caughte cheating even felix sr said he has been always doing that shit ever since
     
  3. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Tito had too much tape. That's what accounted for his power, not gauze.
     
  4. qwertyhgfdsa603

    qwertyhgfdsa603 Leap-Amateur

    good post
     
  5. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Well, they (other commissions) enforced those rules in the rest of his career fights. So we have a tale from before he got caught and after and it leads to only one rational conclusion.
     
  6. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    That is the nail in the coffin. Tito's dad confirmed he cheated the whole time. I like how suddenly people become wordsmiths. Margarito is a cheater, he broke the rules. Tito broke the NY state commission rules only, "dickhead." He knowingly broke the rules and got caught=cheater. It is a fact, not opinion, not hatred, he cheated and his own fucking trainer said he did it his ENTIRE FUCKING CAREER TO THAT POINT? If you get caught cheating and then say you did it the whole time what does that make you.


    CHEATER.
     
  7. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur


    WOW! You are a stupid fuck! Vargas went 12 and Reid finished the fight on his feet. :l1:
     
  8. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

    That you are a moron?
     
  9. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    They didn't absorb like Mayorga did you idiot. Vargas and Reid were dropped numberous times and they were boxing. Mayorga let Tito hit him and stood in front of him for the entire fight. Vargas did and got dropped thrice. He then boxed. Reid was schooling Tito for 3 or 4 rounds . Maybe you should watch fights before commenting. Mayorga literally gave him free shots and never moved out of punching range. Reid and Vargas both did.
     
  10. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    If that is your inference, I doubt you should use that word.
     
  11. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

    :atu:
     
  12. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I don't agree with Double there. Tito had natural power given to him by the gods. The wraps helped him, rather allowed him to throw at ultimate velocity whereas his opponents could not because their hands would be damaged. Here is a simple question. If Trinidad did nothing wrong,why did New York make him re-wrap and why did all subsequent (meaning following or later in this context, big word for you) commissions not allow him to wrap his hands? Why? If it conferred no advantage why do it? If it was of no use, why did New York say he couldn't do it?
     
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  13. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur


    I love that your basing your theory on the fact that Mayorga (who was never koed to that point) took Trinidad's punches for eight WHOLE rounds. :l2:
     
  14. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    You might want to check your facts on that, son.
     
  15. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur


    So most fighters aren't throwing at full velocity??
     
  16. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

    Yea he was tkoed in is first pro bout, you got me! your theory is still :shit:
     
  17. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Sorry, you previous statement was predicated on the fact "No one" stopped Mayorga yet that is false.I did "get" you.
     
  18. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Of course not, not every time or even most times. Again, if I am so stupid, why did Tito break the rules his entire career if he received no benefit. Why?If he did nothing wrong, why did he stop wrapping his hands one he was caught? Why?

    Welcome to fightbeat. It's been fun slapping you around.
     
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  19. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur


    Yep! You showed me.

    Your "extra gauze ULTIMATE velocity" theory is as sound as can be. :tick:
     
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  20. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    the fact that Double L, qwertyhgfdsa603 and rocco are all in agreement on this topic speaks volumes.
     
  21. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Spadafora-Floyd and all that
     
  22. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    There's no sense in debating this. All anyone needs to do is watch 4-5 pre-hopkins fights, followed by his post-hopkins fights.
     
  23. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    His wraps were only illegal in New York. In places like Vegas they were fine.
     
  24. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Why was it illegal if it conferred no advantage. Notice all the Trinifaggots have avoided this question for 2 pages? Be fair Steve? Admit your hero was a cheat.
     
  25. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    He is not my hero. The Hopkins, Wright and especially the Jones fight are not evidence he was a cheater in his prime. Sorry.
     
  26. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Noted. You have also declined to answer a very simple question.
     
  27. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    You mean why is it illegal if there is no advantage? Brother Nazim himself says he was just nitpicking, following the letter of the law.
     
  28. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    If Tony was putting plaster in his wraps and still having to wear down guys by attrition and facial injuries I doubt Tito was bouncing Vargas & Joppy about at 154 & 160 because he had a couple extra layers of foam gauze in there. I mean...maybe, but it seems unlikely.
     
  29. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    But he didn't KO BERNARD HOPKINS!!!!!!!!!1
     
  30. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Not KOing two guys he barely hit was pretty damning evidence, admittedly :lol:
     

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