Wow boxing sure is dead. Can't think of a single fight I'm looking forward to

This is true. Twitter is a weird invention.

 

It's not an argument. Just a true statement.

 

I think the thing I hate most about MMA is the lack of 10 count. It basically eliminates most fights from being as compelling/dramatic as the very greatest boxing matches.

 

Yeah man, I'm not saying it happens every time, but think of all the times someone has been dropped by a punch and then immediately finished off as soon as he hit the ground. Happens pretty often.

You give him a 10 count, you give him 10 seconds to recover, clear his head... and who knows, maybe come back and create a memorable or even great fight.

 

Yeah but that'll change what MMA is.

 

I don't even mean they're stopped too early. Often times they aren't in these situations... it's a case of a guy getting dropped by a good shot, then getting KTFO by the immediate follow up punches on the ground.

 

Maybe they could make it so you can only take someone to the ground with a grappling or wrestling move... but if you're dropped by a punch or a kick to the head it's a 10 count.

 

Or, you could have it up to the guy who scored the knockdown. Do you want to do down after the 10 count or do you want him back up?

 

I'll make sure these ideas are the top story on Monday.

 

Good distinction. It could possibly work but would be difficult to implement. In some cases it would be hard to distinguish between a strike and a grapple takedown, especially if the strike happens when the fighters are in close.

 

I don't think this will ever happen.
Deaths in boxing are caused by extensive punches to the head using 8oz-10oz gloves over 12 x 3 minute rounds.

I can't think of any major injuries caused by single, huge shots...

 

Yeah, exactly. I can see someone ending up crippled after a slam on his neck, but that's about it.

 

At the end of the day, I'd like nothing more than boxing and MMA to co-exist, side-by-side and be non-comparable.

But all I can see is one growing fast and one diminishing...just as fast.

 

Yeah, and they're both Saturday night fighting sports battling for the same PPV dollars. They're in direct competition.

 

That's about it? :giggle:

 

:: Way fewer head shots in MMA. Don't see an accumulation death coming, but when guys are cutting weight anything is possible.

 

I dunno...ground and pound can kill a man by the looks of it

 

But there are many major injuries and deaths in boxing that have occurred within 15 minutes of fight action, not to mention 25 minutes.

There have been a few deaths in toughman and that is 3 minutes tops of action.

 

Yeah, probably... but it's still far fewer shots taken than the typical boxing death.

 

If you think boxing is dead or dying, there are two easy things you should do:

1. Don't watch because you aren't a fan; and

2. Don't post in a boxing forum because you aren't a fan.

 

I actually am way more interested in Boxing that MMA. MMA just seems too manufactured. I watched the last event at a friends house and people were talking about how the UFC is getting cheesy after the commercial of Dana raffling off a Harley via the internet. It just seems too showy these days and cards are also getting pretty watered down.

 

This isn't communist Russia. We're allowed to express dissent and still be committed fans.

I do think there's a tendency though of fans to forget that nearly all the problems with boxing that exist today existed in the past also, and in some cases were even worse.

A lot of the complaints should sound like:

"When is boxing going to get it together?"

Instead of:

"Why can't boxing be like it used to be?"

But either way, the point is, everyone's within their right to express their dismay with boxing. And doing so doesn't disqualify them as true fans.

You must admit that boxing has its problems, whether they're new problems or ones that have always been.