Premier League 2011/12 Season

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That was the first word that popped into my little head.

 

I genuinely don't think they are pushed about the Cups. Remember they have the Europa League too, hanging over them, so Mancini reckons 2 tournaments is enuff to keep them busy. Big push at home, big push in "Europe"....I am sure his paymasters will settle for that.

 

West-Londonese. Pure genius, Irish.

 

Can't you just say "Smart"....::

 

Well in Leeverpul! :bears:

Still no lonely fields on a road though

 

:: Pure dynamite, son

 

:: I've never understood why Liverpool sing that.

 

I know. To me a field on a road is non sequitar enough, but I suppose you can call a football pitch a 'field' so, you can let that slip. But to say your ground is 'lonely'? Whizat mean?::

I like scousers though so they've my permission to sing what they like:truce:

 

Scousers are great people. I really admire Liverpool FC and Anfield. Such history.

 

Prefer Everton, by allot, but quite like seeing Liverpool do well, too

 

Yeah, all forty years of it...

MTF

 

They are the best English club to watch in major competitions. You never know what will happen in a Liverpool European game.

 

:stir:

 

Roll on Sunday. Hughes' first game in charge. Sensible money is on an away win :Thumbs:

 

Closer to 50. Shankly was a great man, nevermind football, light years ahead of Ferguson, who sees things in a very very narrow sense. Shankly was a huge fan of what United did after the War and after Munich, and spoke about it warmly. Different era I suppose.

 

Liverpool are undoubtedly a great club, IMO greater than Man Utd

 

You can tell from Mancini's interviews of late that he's losing it.

 

I'm don't think I could possibly agree with that, to be honest.

 

Undeniably so. But they haven't won an English title in two decades. They are a dangerous cup side now, no more or less than that. They had a period of dominance in the 70's-80's. That's their history.

MTF

 

Nor could I.

MTF

 

He's pissed off over a few decisions not going his way. I wonder willl United fans get into the "cracking up" routine....because the last time that happened, their pants got pulled down in front of their home fans.
Mancini has a point. There is no way the two tackles in question were any different to each other in any fundamental way, yet Johnson stayed on the field and Kompany walked.

It confirms what I've always suspected- that somebody in the FA is bent and is looking out for United, one way or the other. Neither player should have walked in any sense, yet Kompany got a 4 game ban, and lost his appeal. They didn't just take him out of the game, they took him out of the next 4 too. So they lost a player for 5 games and Johnson didn't even get booked. You can say there is inconsistency in refereeing decisions- but that inconsistency can easily be put right in the video rooms after the game.

 

Johnson should have been sent off. He literally flies in, two-footed. He got the ball, fair enough, but it's the way in which he went for it. Why on fucking God's Earth do players constantly go in two-footed like that? It's so dangerous. Players have forgotten the art of a good tackle.

 

I think United are "Bigger" but its in a financial sense and a media sense. There is something weak about them, the way the stadium empties when things aren't going their way. Mass Exodus when it seems the cause is lost. Biblical. "And thus spake Dossena/Silva/Hanley/Murray, and the Great Exodus Began" There's a great example of this where some unofficial {fans} Man United spokesperson came out after the 6-1 hammering by Citeh, to talk about how big United were, how they wouldn't stand for this, yet this same moron was seen guffawing and mouthing and shrugging his jacket after the third goal went in, and then left the stadium.

When United are flying, its replica kits and red scarves, if they stay second, the green-and-gold scarves emerge and are seen everywhere. LUHG. String a few wins together, and the Newton-Heath strip disappears again. Real narrow mentality. They are also up to their tits in debt, and, in my opinion, are running on the vapours of Paul Scholes and Giggs.

Keane was never replaced adequately, nor Giggs nor Scholes. Ferguson disguised this shortening-of-handle with a sharpening-of-blade via Ronaldo and Tevez and the like but the recall of Scholes is as alarming as it is newsworthy. It means the millions he spunked on Bebe, Obertan, Carrick were wasted. It also suggests his vaunted record in the transfer market isn't really all that good. He inherited Giggs and Scholes. That was somebody elses work.

Rooneys a fat, grim thug with the education of a billy-club. They smoothed over that thing nicely but the reality is that Rooney demanded a wage rise and forced Fergusons hand on it- Ferguson doesn't care about United, he cares about Ferguson, he broke the rule on wages not to accommodate Rooney, but to accommodate himself. Teams are terrified of them, in England that is. A lot of their recent success is built on this fear element, with managers often aching to take Ferguson's shriveled girth, regarding it as a sort of honour. Basle are unlikely any bigger than Spurs, or Chelsea, but Basle hopped off them. Twice.

These are the fault-lines that United will eventually break on. I've said it before and say it again, once Ferguson goes, you will witness a sea-change in the system. They won't allow anyone ever again to wield that sort of referee-bashing, game-influencing power.

 

Studios are full of dessicated old-timers telling us that "Oh, in my day lad, that were a good tackle, lad, we broke up Pele, lad, we......" and it keeps this mirage going that football is being destroyed by foreign, European influences, the malicious schematics and blueprints of FIFA/UEFA being unconscionably forced onto the simple and uncomplicated draft of English football.

Ironically, however, it is the "Pace" of the vaunted Premier League that is getting guys hurt. Busst, Ramsey, Eduardo are some of the worst injuries I have seen in a long long time, but there they are, smack-bang in the middle of the "Modern Era".

 

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You got me and Jimmy confused again my Irish brethren!

By the way, I watch Sky Sports news at my desk, as do others here, nobody has said anything yet so I don't know if it's "frowned upon" ::

 

Jesus, I wonder how I managed that!:tick:

 

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If United have overtaken them in the greatness stakes then it is only very recently that they have done so. They're bigger in a financial sense as Irish pointed out, but nothing else.

 

St Patrick's weekend is going to be messy. QPR vs Liverpool AND England vs Ireland in the six nations. My word, I cannot wait


Also, let's not forget the "War of the Roses" battle between Hatton and Brook, oh and Martinez vs Macklin.

 

I was gonna go to Westmeath for Paddies weekend, but I seriously can't miss Liverpool FC coming to town.