Mayweather Dares Pacquiao: Step Up and Fight You Punk!

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  1. Hex-One

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    pac cant hide behind arum. he can tell arum exactly who he wants to fight. the wbo president said that team pac told him his next fight was in june. so they never had any intentions of fighting floyd. needles, stadium, jail, cut to heal, gurantee, cut of date, dont know who to call. not many excuses left for arum and pac.
     
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    Nobody who wasn't a Pacquiao higher should be surprised by this.
     
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    Higher = hugger

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  6. Double L

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    Pacquiao fighting not mayweather in an outdoor 38000 venue. Pbf fighting not pacquiao to sell out crowd at mgm. Two ppvs. Not one. This is why pbf vs. Pacquiao is not happening.
     
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    I said this before, people are way too quick to jump on Arum.

    Sure, he wants to protect his cash cow and doesn't want the fight, but I would bet money the fight still wouldn't happen even if Arum wasn't Manny's promoter.

    Back when negotations started, I don't think it was Arum's fault, and now I don't think it's Arum's fault either.

    2 years ago it was more Floyd who didn't want the fight, and now it appears to be more Pacquiao who doesn't want the fight.

    It would be hilarious of the pair of them got bashed in their upcoming fights.
     
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    Hex its all your fault
     
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    2 years ago it was mayweather jr.'s fault because he demanded dope testing, that he still demands but now pacquiao allegedly agrees to?
     
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    so its 1 of 4. peterson. think hes with goldenboy so nope. bradley. young strong no drawing power. nope. marquez draws but is too dangerous. so that leaves cotto. knows hes no risk and a big draw add to that cotto needs a fat pay cheaque to stay at top rank.
     
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    If Manny really wanted this fight it would have been on.
     
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    REED Blamed Team Mayweather Initially but NOW, it's Clearly Team Pacquiao's Fault...Actually, it's JM Marquez's Fault for SPOOKING Pacquiao & EMBOLDENING Mayweather...



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    It's Marquez or Cotto. Yep, Pac could have made the fight and he chose not to do so. Too bad.
     
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    THIS!
     
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    For those who blamed Mayweather Jr for the fight previously not taking place and say it's not his fault this time.. what exactly what was it that he did before which caused the fight to not take place, that he isn't doing now?
     
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    I could dig through the chronology, but the main one that sticks out is the new style of drug testing. He basically expected Pacquaio to jump through hoops while Mayweather numbs his hands with a drug that would be illegal anywhere except Nevada. Both guys are likely using something, but Mayweather was plain scared. I don't blame him. Pacquaio was a beast.

    Pacquaio might have been on something or he might not have. Mayweather tried to dictate everything, knowing that was a sure way to avoid a fight with Pacquaio. Pacquaio wasn't going to just do whatever Mayweather wanted, and Mayweather knew Arum wouldn't. It was an easy way for Floyd to avoid the fight when Pacquaio was regularly steamrolling people.

    Now that Pacquaio looks vulnerable, Floyd is getting brave. That's cowardly and disgusting.
     
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    Floyd is still demanding the drug testing. Nothing has changed in that regard. Is there anything else you can point to aside from speculation/opinion? It would appear he is doing everything exactly the same as he was before.
     
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    Does PBF use nylocaine to this day? If he does, that explains his absolute refusal to fight anywhere but Vegas.

    What's disturbing is that if this is indeed the case, the fact Pacquiao or his camp hasn't brought it up suggests he himself may have something to hide. No?
     
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    When you consider that the only scenario in which this fight gets made is for one guy to call the other's bluff, it makes it frustrating as a Pacquiao fan that he doesn't just do so.

    Arum pretends to have the boxing public's best interest in mind, insisting on an out-door arena as the only way to go for a fight of this magnitude. But that's his plan all along, whether the opponent is PBF or not. It's clear he's had a plan all along for Pacquiao to fight outside and that PBF was never part of that plan. That implies to me he has no intentions of ever making the fight, and all of this talk about venues and dates is nonsense.

    At the same time, PBF had to know when he set the date and venue in stone for his next fight (May 5th), that he was sending the message to Pacquiao and company that he had no intention of compromising with them, no consideration whatsoever for their point of view, and in whole, like Arum, no intention whatsoever to make the fight.

    I find it funny that there's people around here who actually think PBF wants the fight. He doesn't want the fight. He's just managed a bluff that he knows Pacquiao won't call him on. So he's confident. He's cocky about the whole thing as if he wants the fight. But the plain fact is, he's simply managed to fool everyone with some savvy planning.

    The bottom line is, PBF is going to face Alvarez or some other GBP fighter, and GBP will make more money for itself than if PBF faced Pacquiao. And the same goes for TR. Pacquiao's going to face some TR opponent, and TR will make more money than it Pacquiao faced PBF. Bottom line is there will be two PPVs, not one. There will be two 24-7's, not one.
     
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    Pac comes off like such a primadonna. who turns down millions and millons cuz you don't wanna take a drug test? people on drugs!

    Pac is scared and knows he is gonna get whupped
     
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    If Pac's reluctance is based on the fact he's on gear and afraid of getting whupped, what do you suppose is the reason for PBF's reluctance?
     
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    That's another thing infuriating. Arum has the audacity to suggest the fight might get made in November? Really? How fucking stupid and blind does he think we are?

    The fight could very well happen in November, because let's face it, if somehow it becomes the best move financially for TR and GBP, then it will happen.

    But that's different from a guy like Arum, and GBP, having told us at least three times previously that it could happen in six months, only for it to never materialize, having the gall to insult us once again with the belief that at this point, anything he has to say regarding this fight means even one iota to any of us.

    It's one thing for him and GBP to bull-shit us for years on end. But at least give us credit by acknowledging that by this stage, he's lost all credibility in our eyes.
     
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    Fear of getting beaten by a cheater.

    Why the Pacquiao supporters seem to believe that this rather apparent concept shows Mayweather in a bad light is hard to figure out.
     
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    Arum has to say it, because it's the only way to justify Pac not fighting Mayweather. There will be another 100 excuses from arum about a fight in november again.
     
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    Floyd demands PED's testing and agrees to everything else including the split and other stipulations. Pacquiao's camp rejects the fight, signs to fight Clottely 3 days later and Floyd is the one avoiding the fight.

    Months later Floyd is still demanding PED's testing, Pacquiao agrees to it but refuses to sign for the fight because of some cut and they will be ready to fight a couple of days after Floyd goes to jail or something like that or some other bullshit like wanting to build a stadium for the fight and now Manny is acknowledged as the one ducking the fight.

    Doesn't make sense.

    Basically for the people supporting this argument, all Pacquiao had to do was keep rejecting the fight arguing he is scared of needles and afraid to pass out with that testing and you would have kept believing Floyd was the one ducking the fight. Unreal.

    Here's a key, in situations like this one, the fighter who isn't really willing to make the fight is going to be the one that changes his position. Pacquiao's camp has been the one doing that over and over and over with silly arguments. That is a fact.
     
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    So it's alright for Mayweather to go out and secure a date and venue with no negotiations from the other side? He can just dictate what ever the fuck he wants and it's up to Manny to just agree with everything? Ok.
     
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    What you say makes a lot of sense, but it should be stated that PBF likely could turn around and say, "okay. we can fight outside late in May - as long as the judge says it's okay." And really, the judge would say it's okay. At least she'd have the same reason for doing so that was the basis for her initial ruling to allow the sentence to be postponed.

    And before you miss the point and begin defending PBF's right to make the fight on May 5th, when he scheduled it long ago, remember that the point isn't the merit of either fighter's argument. The point is to fully explore your argument, which is that PBF's done everything he can to make the fight and Pacquiao hasn't.

    And if you do want to address the merit of the arguments, remember that it was PBF who set aside May 5th, long ago and unilaterally. The fact he did this signaled long ago an unwillingness to make the fight. He now stands reaping the benefits of that savvy move, able to bluff with impunity that he wants the fight, if only Pacquiao would go along with the date.

    My position is, it's impossible to examine this situation thoroughly and not come away with the conclusion that neither guy wants the fight.
     
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    That's a fair point. Floyd should have asked the judge to give him an additional month to report, IF the fight was to happen at the end of May or in early June. If the negotiations fell through, he would report at the date she originally set.

    It is likely a judge would not have a problem with that request.

    Actually, it's a request that Floyd should make right now. He won't get the fight at that date, but he will show Arum and Pacq to be what most of us already know they are.
     
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    5 of pacquiao's last 7 fights have been at MGM, and twice on cinco de mayo weekend.
     
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    Was it ever the case that those dates and venues were decided six months in advance by his opponent?
     

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