Byrd/Golota revisited...

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  1. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

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    Who won?
    Was Golota impressive?
    I thought Golota won and I thought he beat Ruiz too.
     
  2. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    I'm still disgusted that Lennox Lewis ducked Chris Byrd and instead fought Andrew Golota.
     
  3. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Who has watched a Chris Byrd fight in its entirety?
     
  4. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    He should be blocked from the HOF because of it IMO.
     
  5. Double L

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    Byrd/Golota was actually a very watchable fight. Golota/Ruiz, not so much. But Golota/Byrd featured some exciting action, with Byrd against the ropes especially.
     
  6. Irish

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    Byrd was one of the bravest fighters of the "Modern" era. Truly would fight anyone. I don't believe that Lewis ducked him, he just avoided him, not a lot of money, and a hard nights work that made nobody much money, except possibly Byrds neurologist.

    Byrd fought

    Vitali
    Wlad X2
    Golota
    Tua
    Ibeabuchi
    Holyfield
    Mo Harris
    Povetkin
    DaVarryl Williamson
    McCline
    Oquendo
    Phil Jackson
    Ross Purritty

    And he fought most of these guys standing right in front of them. None of this running and pushing crap dressed up as real fighting. For a 6'2" 212lb guy he did exceptionally well.
     
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  7. steve_dave

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    :lol: You would add Puritty to the list.

    Seriously though, I agree with you. I liked Byrd.
     
  8. Slice N Dice

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    Byrd had balls no doubt. By the way you left Calzaghe off the list...
     
  9. Irish

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    Purritty was very strong and probably had a 30lb advantage on Byrd. Pretty much any win for Byrd over any of these guys is impressive. He was almost always at a weight and strength disadvantage. Purritty probably would have killed Chris in a street fight.
     
  10. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I had Golota beating Byrd by 2 pts, I believe. I recall having Oquendo beating Byrd by a wider margin, although in a far less watchable fight. Byrd-Golota was actually a fun fight.

    Of all of Golota's shots at a title, I thought that was the one time he deserved to be called champ by the end of the night. I forget how I scored Ruiz-Golota - I had it a 1 pt difference, regardless - but that fight was terrible and Golota gave away the fight, really from the moment that Stoney got ejected (his rant 2-3 rounds prior one of the funniest moments in recent boxing history)
     
  11. Azazel

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    A little known fact is taht Byrd ducked John Ruiz when both where champions
     
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    Golota won the fight. Should have been credited with several knockdowns on top of that when Byrd after several hard body shots would just lean down and touch the mat. Randy Neuman is a horrible referee.
     
  13. The Genius

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    Golota v Ruiz was disgusting. I'm screaming at the the tv 'Use the jab! The jab!' to Golota. He was content to just sit in front of Ruiz bobbing around like he'd win the fight on poses.

    Golota commits to the jab in that fight and he beats Ruiz with ease.
     
  14. *Z*

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    Golota beat Byrd and Ruiz.
     
  15. cdogg187

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    Indeed. What a pussy.
     
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    Every time Golota stepped back and fired a jab-cross, he hit that idiot Ruiz on the button. Problem is, he only did it once in a while... He should have done it all night... I remember being incredulous that his corner didn't notice it. It worked like a charm every time Ruiz leaned in to hug him. He just didn't do it enough.
     
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    i had Golota-Byrd a close fight..a draw was pretty fair

    i had Golota beating Ruiz by several points...that fight sucked apart from a few good rounds, and Norman Stone
     
  18. *Z*

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    Golota was shot by that time though. The Golota who battered Bowe would have murdered Ruiz.
     
  19. Destruction and Mayhem

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    I agree with both you and Irish except I hated Byrd.
     
  20. Irish

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    Same in the Grant fight. He abandoned the straight right for a left hook, despite the fact that he couldn't miss with his right over Grants very low left hand. Guy, physically, was a perfect heavyweight. Mentally, he was not cut out for boxing at all.
     
  21. cdogg187

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    Indeed. It would seem to be that way.
     
  22. Irish

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    In fact, he doesn't seem cut out for anything. God meant to place him in Warsaw in 1939 but got his wires crossed and Andrew popped out in 1969 :lol:
     
  23. The Genius

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    He was fully capable of beating Ruiz, he just didn't. After the fight he had a cry about judging but to me it was clear that while he was the superior boxer, he did not demonstrate it enough in the ring.
     
  24. Azazel

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    the only way Golota has an argument to have won the Ruiz fight imo is with the bullshit point deduction and blown kd called he got. I just can't see him winning 6 rounds in this fight.
     
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    I saw Golota as the clear winner, I think he took about seven rounds and with the two KDs it was a big gap. And I actually watched this fight like four times. There were plenty of close rounds though and Golota has himself to blame for much, but I thought he beat both Ruiz and Byrd
     
  26. Double L

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    you managed to watch that fight four times? that had to have been the most boring Golota fight ever. only Ruiz could've managed to make a Golota fight boring. it was so tedious after a while, once Ruiz got into his grappling rhythm. he was grabbing Golota after virtually every punch. Golota throws. Ruiz grabs. Golota puts his arm up to protect against rabbit punches. The fighters break. Repeat.
     
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    awful, yet hilarious:lol:
     
  28. Irish

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    There is a character in a book called "The Day of the Jackal" by Frederick Forsyth who mirrors Golota entirely. His name is Victor Kowalski and apparently he existed in real life to some extent or the other. A lethal combination of size and meanness. When he was a youngster in Occupied Poland he snapped the neck of a German officer who was boning his sister, he broke out of a detention camp at the end of the war and traveled to Marseille where he joined the Legion.
     
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    Norman Stone and John Ruiz were a great combination, weren't they? The guy you couldn't stand to watch teamed up with the guy you couldn't stand to listen to.
     

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