Floyd Mayweather or Pernell Whitaker?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Destruction and Mayhem, Jan 27, 2012.

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Who's greater?

  1. Whitaker

    70.8%
  2. Mayweather

    29.2%
  1. This is more competitive.

    Who's greater?
     
  2. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Whitaker can't hit, and is nearly unwatchable at 147 due to the amount of holding he does. PBF definitely!
     
  3. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Words from Double "I counted the number of backward steps Whitaker took against Chavez" L
     
  4. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    No I didn't. I counted the number of times he clinched. And it was outrageous.
     
  5. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Both are pretty useful. Whitaker shades it for me based on opposition and relative performances against (very different versions of) Oscar. Floyd's longevity is proving better, but then he doesn't snort as much coke.
     
  6. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Whitaker lost to ODH.
     
  7. I dunno about this supposed Whitaker edge in Quality of Opposition.

    Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, De La Hoya, Mosley, Marquez, Judah

    gimme 7 better BEATEN opposition names on Whitaker's resume
     
  8. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

    I'll just give you 1, Chavez. Who was 10x the fighter those guys were.

    Give me sweat pea all day.
     
  9. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Not at 147 he wasn't. Did he have even one meaningful win there?
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    No way!? Who won Ali-Frazier II, mate?:34:
     
  11. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I don't know about 'names' but I could give you better quality fighters
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2012
  12. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Both are masters of defence, although their methods are very different. Who's was better?
     
  13. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    mayweather jr dont have any type of win comparable to beating chavez, who was 142lbs when he fought whitaker. fuck welterweight
     
  14. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Whitakers involves far less cheating so Id give him the nod
     
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    Yep.
     
  16. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    Whitaker....
     
  17. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Whitaker was clearly better defensively, Floyd is clearly better offensively. Floyd is also a lot more disciplined.
     
  18. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    So your pick is Terry Norris? :bears:
     
  19. What?

    Whitaker used to do all kinds of dirty tricks. Of course when it happens in the 80s it's not "dirty/cheating" it's "masterful strategy".
     
  20. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Like what? He clinched a bit much, especially as he got older but i don't remember any other forms of 'escapology'
     
  21. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    whitaker did some strange shit like pulling down roger mayweather's trunks, putting azumah nelson on a headlock and punching behind his back and sometimes he'd grab his opponent's leg as if he was doing a single leg takedown.

    all mayweather does is pushing off w/ his forearm/elbow. i dont ever recall floyd throwing a significant lowblow.
     
  22. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    He did once in a while bend down below waist level which makes it illegal for your opponent to hit you.
     
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    Sure he bent the rules a bit but not on Floyd's level.

    Breaking the rules is a huge part of Floyd's game, the elbow, the forearm to the throat, turning his back, ducking below the waist etc etc.

    He does it constantly, it's part of his style, but somehow doesn't get called for it.
     
  24. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    And Pernell Whitaker would've sonned Cotto, Margarito, Pacquiao immediately.....and not set up a thousand roadblocks for not fighting Pac..
     
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    To answer the question, Whitaker isn't scared of 5'2 Filipino men who wear belts and pull their trousers up really high, so I would have to say Whitaker.
     
  26. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Does Mayweather have a dog? If so Pacquiao should eat it. Maybe that would piss of Floyd enough for him to want revenge.
     
  27. word.

    Glad someone else noticed....
     
  28. Objection! Irrelevant.

    Sustained.
     
  29. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran


    Overruled...Senor Mayweather lack of balls is relevant to this case. NOT fighting fighting the best opponents of his generation is also relevant and show his greatness is not so great when measure among his peers. So Mr. Secretariat shut the fuck up before I find you in contempt!!
     
  30. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I think Chavez was great, but 4 months later he lost to Randall and 9 months later he lost to Randall again, but got a gift.

    Whitaker got him at the right time and at the right weight for Whitaker.

    Your '10x' claim is hyperbole even if Chavez had been at his best. It's BS when put into perspective.
     

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