And this is based on what? Your gut feeling? It would be cool if a business could run that way. Unfortunately you might want to know a company's financial information before arbitrarily deciding the employees should make more. Seems reasonable, right? And we're back to the same point. You have no idea what a UFC fighter SHOULD make. Well, you have no factual idea. Oh, by the way, in the "MORE DUMB POINTS FOR MIKE" category, I need to point out that you're wrong again. Roop's had 4 fights during his latest stint with the UFC. Only 1 was a PPV card. Man, prying candy from a baby's hand is more difficult than this shit.
Should the UFC receive the benefit of every doubt because they keep their financials private and try to keep everyone in the dark? Look up the clean hands doctrine. Apply it to the UFC. Oh, I forgot, the non-ppv cards make no money for the UFC. They do those at a loss. It doesn't change anything.
You always use boxing as a barometer. I don't know much about boxing pay. Do fighters make the same for boxing PPV's as they do for fights on HBO or Showtime?
You don't know much about pay, in general. Sure, some boxers can make the same as they would on ppv and some can make more. It depends. Boxers are not indentured servants and they are able to get a far larger piece of the pie than their mma counterparts. Sometimes an HBO or Showtime payout is more than a ppv would bring in. I like how your shill bro seems to think otherwise and that you made a clever point when, in fact, you didn't. I don't even know that you intended to, but if you did, you failed.
:atu: Yes, a boxer with a borderline .500 record like George Roop is able to get a large piece of the pie in boxing. Please, Roop made $12,000 as part of a Spike TV card in which Roop's bout was buried 3 deep on the Facebook broadcast. And this figure doesn't include any bonus money. Maybe I am naive, but that doesn't seem to shabby. Again, I'll eat my words if you can show me a boxer with a similar record that made similar money on an untelevised basic cable card.
Lying about what? I used to watch everything now I just pick and choose fights that i watch. The card on Fox was the first time I watched a card from start to finish in a long time.
That bout was in 2007. I have no idea if the UFC was even making money. How the hell am I suppose to say whether Jardine was paid fairly? I know Jardine made a straight salary of $55K per fight in his last contract with the UFC which covered 4 fights all of which he lost and looked horrible (Jackson, Silva, Bader and Hammill). So he made $220,000 in 16 months for 4 fights despite losing all of them. This excludes any bonus or sponsorship money. All in all, I don't know if Jardine was under or over paid, but I'm not sure I'd complain about a contract that allowed me to lose 4 straight yet guaranteed me $55K for each fight. That sounds pretty good to me. According to my math Jardine made about $340K in his UFC career in straight salary. He had 8 fights and never really became a top guy as he compiled a record of 3-5. I don't know dude. That doesn't seem inappropriate to me. But again, I don't really know because it spans a 4 year period and the UFC' financials have certainly changed during that time.
OK.... The say they were profitable. I still don't know if Jardine was under or over paid. Personally I don't think a 3-5 fighter should bitch too much about making $55K per fight. It might be too little, it might be too much. I just wouldn't cry about it. Good for Keith. He made good money despite sucking. Only in Americ..... I mean UFC....
I don't give a damn. You have said it already in this thread 100x. Why are you asking me a question you know the answer for?You have said it already in this thread 100x. Why are you asking me a question you know the answer for? I'm talking about Jardine making 12k for a PPV main event that did 450,000 buys.
exactly. Reported payouts. Not exactly what they make tho is it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_141 Especially since we know overeem made 2 mil. but according to the same website you listed, he only made 385k. So stop acting like you havent learned something from our discussion. Let's at least acknowledge the reported payouts arent exactly the correct numbers.
I'll quit posting forever if you can show me where I said that. But, since you said it, can you prove he didn't? :l1:
You laugh at something that isn't funny. It makes you look like a putz. Jardine didn't get a win bonus, he didn't get fight of the night bonus, so what else is there? His contract with the UFC? You fall back on the ignorance point to defend the UFC and you fall back on it to support them. As more information becomes clear and your position becomes apparent for the naivety and stupidity it stands for, I hope you will man up and admit you were foolish and not try to defend it. However, I know you will not. Suck (you) and Blow (Andrew) are too mesmerized by the UFC mystique to look at this topic with a speck of objectivity and when you are proven to be the shills you are, you'll look for excuses.
Those arent all the bonuses they hand out. Im not sure if you watched any of the interviews, but you have had them say that if you fight hard and show effort, The UFC could just write you a check and send it to you. The shit doesnt need to be published.
Yes, I have seen that. I agree it could make a difference, although when you start out at $14,000, I doubt it will make enough of a difference in the big picture. The fact that it happens, just indicates that King Dana likes having the power over his indentured servants and seeks gratitude for giving them something that they (usually, probably, or definitely) already deserved in the first place.
Honestly dude, you can use any nickname you want but the only one that looks foolish is you. You've argued circles around yourself while 'Anthony' and I have simply stood by the fact that we do NOT know nearly enough about what fighters are paid OR the UFC's financials to claim anything. You can be the idiot that makes claims without any factual back-up. Go ahead. We give you permission. Or better yet, how about another poll. Yeah, that'll show those UFC shills. :scared2:
You don't know or have any facts, but you doubt just the same. That perfectly describes your entire argument. Perfectly.
