Cotto vs Floyd is ON !

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    I know :kidcool:

    You should be thankful it's extremely unlikely.

    As a Cotto fan I guess I'm glad he's getting another big payday, and though he'll get dominated, he won't take a bad beating.

    Floyd by very comfortable UD is my pick. I think Cotto wins a round, two max. Cotto is too patient and waits for openings, he'll get constantly picked off and potshotted by the quicker, rangier Floyd.
     
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    Well he looks pretty good! He is 154 a BIg, STRONG, LIoN

    Floyd is much much smaller...and getting old
     
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    The best meat is in the rump.
     
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    Hedging your bets already?
     
  6. Double L

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    Plus he's short. And that's one of the reasons I'm not at all surprised that Cotto was chosen as the opponent.
     
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    You sure would. It's not like you're a boxing fan. You're a Floyd fan and if he were to lose your world would be upside down.
     
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    Clear win for Floyd. Cotto won't catch him with anything meaningful & PBF will land cleaner.
     
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    I actually think Cotto has a good chance of winning....IF he makes Floyd come to him.
     
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    Yup.

    Like it did when Roy got KTFO by Tarver. My boxing world literally crashed that night. Still, life goes on and there's always another super talented guy that comes along that I'd be rooting for. :egypt:
     
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    Some Boxing Fans Simply REFUSE to B Pleased...There's Absolutely NATHAN Wrong w/this Fight, yet Some R Posting as if this is a FARCICAL Matchup or Something???...

    This Fight will Do HUGE #'s & Cotto WON'T B Looking for an Easy Out...Plus, Cotto is Heavy Handed Enough to Make Things Interesting...It's NOT as if Floyd's Gonna Go 12 Full Rounds w/Out Being Touched...

    NO, it's Not Mayweather-Pacquiao, but it's a Damn Good Fight Nonetheless...

    REED:mj:
     
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    I think it'd really be good for Floyd as a person if he lost. So for his sake, out of love, I hope he does.
     
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    I refuse to be pleased by any fight except the only one that matters. There was really no good reason not to make it this time.
     
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    this might have been an acceptable fight 2 years ago, when Pacquiao and PBF first began negotiating. But at this point, the fact these two can't make a fight means that anything but their fighting is a slap in the face. And this match-up is no exception.

    Is it better than the usual crap PBF gives us? Absolutely. A year ago PBF would've gone through with a Guerrero fight.

    But it's still a disappointment. And it's still a failure on the part of the two best fighters in the world, who compete in the same weight-class, to fight each other. And it's going on 2 years.
     
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    Get out your PBF/Brusseles recordings. I recognize Cotto is a million miles more talented than that guy, but there's no denying the stylistic and physical similarities. Cotto should study that fight to learn what not to do.
     
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    Cotto's best chance is to fight Floyd the way he fought Margarito in the rematch. He may frustrate Floyd enough to cause Mayweather to walk into something big.

    However if he comes trying to knock Floyd out...he'd be the one knocked out.
     
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    I just got the time off at work. It's happening on my end. Let me know if you're heading down too.
     
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    I'm going to book that shit off today. I guess I had better purchase the fight tix this week?
     
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    No word on when they go on sale yet. Probably going to be a real bitch to get tickets.
     
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    Oh the rematch. Nah. I think Cotto needs to dictate the pace better.
     
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    I agree with this. If Cotto tries to BOX PBF he may have some success. Trying to pressure PBF will fall right into his hands.
     
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    This assumes that pressure is pressure. Which isn't true at all. Presumably, Cotto can apply pressure that is intelligent and well-timed.

    Now. Should he go in there like Jesus Chavez and just start throwing punches? Obviously not.

    But it's a gross over-simplification to say that applying pressure plays in to PBF's hands. Look at PBF/ODH or PBF/Castillo.

    The key is to dictate the pace.
     
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    Cotto barely outboxed Mosley
     
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    Pressure is a sure fail. Everyone has tried to pressure PBF, he's a master at defending that style. Cotto must try something else. Maybe he can mix it up with boxing and some pressure to try and throw PBF off a bit.
     
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    I hope Cotto rips his head off.
     
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    To be specific I think Oscar & JLC had success pressuring midrange and waiting for reactions/openings (Very similar to what tended to work best against Roy). Cotto tends to fight in and out and with that earmuff defense I don't think he's comfortable enough blurring the lines between offense and defense to fightthat way. He's in and out and he's either punching or defending for the most part.
     
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    Good point..........
     
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    It's a good point. But while Cotto fought that way against Margarito, unwilling to blurr the lines as you say, there are examples in which he was willing to and had success.

    But whether you think he's capable of it or not, I think it's what he or anyone else must to do have success. Cotto must be willing to punch with PBF. He must mix it up. He cannot win if he insists on either defending or attacking, but never both. That approach makes it easy for PBF, because he in turn can do the same thing. And he's better at it.

    What Cotto needs to do is be willing to trade with PBF. If he is, it will temper PBF's own offense, and allow him to dictate the pace.
     
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    This info was not in the official press release. It's not confirmed one way or the other yet.
     
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    Cotto has a slim chance here, mainly derived from being a vastly improved fighter, partially derived from his original style and partially derived from Floyd not being the same guy of 2007/2008. He, Cotto, also has a good bit more to offer at 147 than Hatton or Marquez did, and is not as scared or shopworn as Mosley.

    Floyd doesn't have the same chin, style or relentlessness that Margarito did {wraps or no wraps}

    As Hut has somewhat alluded to, Cotto is probably a bit too much in-or-not-in kind of guy. To beat Floyd requires a bit of the old tantric love making, you won't have your dick in him all night, you need to flit around the perimeter, so to speak. Duran would be the man for that.

    EDIT: Is this at 154 or 147? Of course, it will be at the weight that suits Cotto least and suits Floyd most.
     

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