Is it official? That PBF ducked Pacquiao?

Is it not safe to say now that by way of demanding 60%, PBF ducked Pacquiao? And that Pacquiao, by agreeing to everything except 60%, proved he's willing to make the fight?

 

Who really cares at this point? There are no good guys in that one.

 

You know what's official? I don't give a fuck. That's official.

 

Well, I think for the record, it is worth discussing. I think if in this case, PBF (or Pacquiao) were in fact the one who got in the way of the fight happening, then everyone should acknowledge it.

Taking the attitude that, "who really cares at this point?", fails to do this, if in fact it were one party, and not both, who ultimately killed the fight.

Said another way, whoever is responsible would surely want us to take the point of view, "who really cares," and not have to take responsibility for being a bitch.

What's discouraging is all of the enthusiasm around PBF/Cotto. Given the excitement around PBF/Cotto, it isn't hard to figure why PBF/Pacquiao isn't getting made.

 

I was talking to the parking garage attendent about PBF/Pacquiao, and told him it wasn't getting made because PBF wanted 60%. The guy said that was okay since PBF was undefeated and Pacquiao isn't. ::

 

I feel like that when it really mattered, two years ago, Pac scuttled the fight by refusing the testing. Now Floyd might have thrown up some more roadblocks, who knows, but that was the time for the fight to happen. I care less and less as time goes on.
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I feel like when the blame was on Pacquiao, you were happy to place it. But when it's clearly now on PBF, not so much? ::

If anything, PBF's most recent request for 60% might suggest that his initial request for olympic testing was along the same lines: simply a way for him to nix the fight.

It's also interesting that PBF started out saying he wanted 70% - a overtly ridiculous demand. But he made it nontheless because it gave him room to come back with, 60%, also a ridiculous request, but one he could subsequently make to appear as if the fight's actually on the table, when clearly it wasn't.

 

maybe, but you can't fault a fighter for wanting an even playing field. I want Manny to be juiced up myself. It would be a better fight, however, it's against the rules and I'm not the one that has to get in the ring.

 

It's more like I don't care either way anymore.

 

They're both jerking us around. If Floyd had agreed on 50/50, or Manny on taking the shorter end, something else would've gotten in the way.

 

Yes. But from whom would this, "something else," have come? Because if it's PBF, then the correct answer is not, "they're both jerking us around," but rather, that PBF and PBF alone killed the fight.

 

Bob Arum

 

Yep. I have blamed Pacquiao from the start far more than Floyd. 50/50 was agreed to right away according to reports back when this fight really got hot (December 2009): See here: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4715684 12/7/09
"The camps agreed to a 50-50 split of the money," from a source

and here:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/12/05/09/50-50-split-pacquiao-mayweather-bout-report 12/5/09
"ESPN.com’s Dan Rafael cited a source as saying both the Pacquiao and Mayweather camps agreed to an equal split of the money to be generated by the fight tentatively set for March 13 next year"

There are some later reports that say Floyd wanted more than 50/50, but those were completely ignorable because of the complete bullshit, the we-all-know-he's-a-piece-of-shit-juicer-but-some-of-you-pacq-ass-lickers-believe-fairytales, stand of Pacquiao who wouldn't agree to adequate PED testing.

So, in my mind, the fight was set except for Pacquiao's drug testing position.

If the fight really got put off because of Floyd wanting more than 50/50 now, well, then Floyd is the guy to blame. However, I really suspect that the boxing public (i.e. us) are getting played for fools and there is a concerted effort between Arum, Pacq, Floyd, and whoever else to continue to milk this out as long as possible without having Floyd and Pacq fight.

I like Cotto. I like a Floyd Cotto fight. And while I've never been much of a boycott guy, I am not going to pay for Floyd Cotto or Pacq/whoever. I'm really tempted now not to even pay for Floyd vs Pacquiao when it happens. I guess I have to have an out that if the undercard is stacked like an old Don King card, I might give in, but if it is the typical Arum/Golden Boy bullshit undercard, I'm not putting money in Floyd or Pacq's pockets unless and until they fight each other and maybe not even then.

 

Both are to blame.....


Pacquiao held up the fight for years by not accepting olympic style drug testing...

Now Mayweather might add a few months to the wait by not giving in on Pac demands of 50/50 split on PPV...

 

who cares?

they are both gay

 

Yes..but Pac is slightly more gay. Sad really, considering the other guy nickname used to be Pretty Boy....

 

Yes, there is proof. His reluctance to accept random drug testing.

Clear juicer.

 

shut up, pussy ^

 

It's clear evidence he is a filthy cheat. I agree though, I wish Floyd didn't make the demands.

If the fight ever does happen I want to see Floyd in there with a fully juiced Pacquiao, would make for a better fight.

 

Well, I always assumed Pacquiao was a juicer. His refusal to take random drug testing really only cemented my assumption.

I was shocked that there were guys here who didn't think Pacquiao was on steroids. ::

 

And law goes against common sense all the time. It's common sense, but no, you wouldn't get a conviction.

 

Since when though?

 

Probably between Morales fights.

 

Really? That early, why exactly?

I guess I'm just the optimistic sort, but I've never suspected any fighter of being on roids unless it's obscenely obvious, like Roidereem.

Roiding against Morales is more sickening than against larger foes :fightme:

I want a 4th match, with a really juiced Morales against an untrained Pacquiao if that's the case.

Dunno though, in the Erik rematch Pacquiao looked the same to me. Erik was winning again earlyish. I think he just didn't quite have the same energy as the first fight and ended up wilting under Pacquiao's attack.