Good pick. I have a very good boxing picks record, but despite having watched MMA since UFC 1, I suck at picking fights in MMA. My success rate is probably 50 - 50. I thought Carlos would give Diaz a very tough fight, but I thought Diaz would win, and find a way to overwhelm him/outlast him etc. I feel kind of sorry for Diaz, in his 2nd fight in the UFC he happened to fight one of the very few 170 pounders who can beat him. Although it's hard to feel sorry for him after being a total fucking retard leading up to the GSP fight.
His fights indicate that he is very overrated as a bjj specialist. No one ever says he isn't good at BJJ so how can he be underrated? He has the rep, but never proves it. Ever.
Well , he did go the distance with numerous BJJ black belts without being submitted. Even though he doesnt submit people, he is very effective.
He showed his world class skills in putting the great Kimbo Slice in a crucifix. As far as MMA goes, Roy hasnt shown shit as far as ground skills against anyone competent. Now as far as the whole card goes, it was garbage. Condit fought like a bitch and ran all night and Diaz couldn't cut the ring off for shit. They both made for a boring fight. I couldn't believe it. It was almost guaranteed to be a war and it was a snoozer. The whole card was boring.
Nelson has great top control and is very good at passing guard against average opponents. That being said, the dude is far too round nowadays to work a submission on anyone with decent BJJ. His body just doesn't allow for the manuevering necessary. His fat ass would never be able to get his legs high enough to pull off a triangle or armbar from the bottom.
I would expect this from some of these other fools on here but not you. How is it running away when you landed close to 50 more punches and 60 more leg kicks than your opponent? It's called fighting defensively. Sticking and moving. I would even go as far to say that throwing a leg kick while running away is impossible.
He did what he had to do to win, but he did it in the safest most boring way possible. In a fight that was expected to be a great war, he GSP'd his way to victory. It sure as hell didn't make me a Condit fan. I'm just not a fan of point fighting. It's boring. Condit literally RAN at points in the fight. He was scared to death to engage Diaz.
Why do you think Nelson's bjj is underrated? Whatever you say to this question, find some examples to back it up.
It's not talked about too much. It's entirely Nelson's fault why his bjj is underrated tho. He doesnt use it enough. If he used it more, people wouldnt underrate it.
I wasnt bored once in that fight. Condit is an intelligent fighter who looks for ways to win. I didnt see him run at all. You just cant run in a fight and land more punches and kicks than your opponent. He was moving side to side and fighting in angles. If you did see his legs in a running motion at times, it was only to run right into the center of the ring and fight diaz from there.
It was a great strategy but Condit did look like he was running especially in the first 2 rounds. The impressive thing, much like Edgar versus Penn, is that Condit was able to keep moving at the same rate and speed the entire fight. And by the way, in the first 2 rounds Condit landed a few more blows than Diaz. However, most were fleeting leg kicks and I think Diaz landed the more effective strikes. In those first 2 rounds Condit was flat out running away from Diaz.
It wasn't the fight that everyone was expecting. And part of the expectation came from Condit usually being an aggressive fighter. His new nickname should be "The Natural Born Sprinter"...
funny how everyone tought the fight was boring, except for anthony. But, as he said, it's because we lack the knowledge to appreciate these kind fight.
I didnt see condit running at all in the second round. It was by the second round that i started to notice what Condit was doing and actually smiling because i felt if he could keep this up, he has figured Diaz out. Sure enough as each round went by, it was so clear what condit was doing and how masterfully he implemented his game plan that i could do nothing but appreciate it. It was so smart IMO. You could clearly see how condit outsmarted diaz from the beginning of the 24/7 series until the end of the fight. It was man vs. child in the mental department between these two. A psychological beating worthy of a champion.
It is funny. When I got smart MMA fans agreeing with stupid MMA fans i might have to re-evaluate my stance. That or im in the twighlight Zone.
I'm just a different type of fan than Anthony is I guess. I'm more of the violent type, I love sick KO's and I love back and forth wars way more than a slow paced tactical fight. One thing I can't stand in MMA is a guy TRYING to win on points and never even making a decent attempt at finishing a fight. I will give Condit props for the sick kick combo he landed on Diaz. That was by far the best thing he did in the fight. It looked straight out of Tekken.
I never said I thought it was boring. It just wasn't near the brawl I expected. Let's be honest, it wasn't what anyone expected. I was disappointed, not bored. And for me the card was fun. I loved watching Thompson enter the UFC with a highlight reel KO. And the Bruce Leroy, Matt Brown, and Matthew Riddle, fights were all very entertaining. Nelson-Werdum wasn't too bad either. It was also fun watching the UFC's next bantamweight champion, Renan Barao fight. By the way, Herman-Starks was a fun fight. Herman took some big shots before working his ground game. I thought he was going to get bombed out.
:: :bears: You're right about that, in fact there were a few punch/kick combos that looked very fighting game esque from Condit. I didn't think it was an exciting fight either. I expected a FAR more exciting, violent fight. Condit won clearly though.
Condit stunk the joint out that's what he did. There is a big difference between fighting smart and pulling a Kalib Starnes. Frankie Edgar uses movement and he is entertaining to watch. His second fight with Maynard is my favorite UFC fight of all time.
Yeah it was more stinky than Edgar who also moves a lot, but he did more damage than Diaz so what can you say? I gotta say I'm amazed that you're complaining roy, it was no more stinky than half of Floyd's fights.
Some of Floyds fights are garbage but even he hasn't flat out ran for his life like Condit did. In my mind what makes it worse is that Condit has been one of the more exciting fighters to watch. Could you imagine Morales fighting Barrera and seeing one of them just flat out running for their life. Because I really was expecting an all out war between Diaz and Condit.
I doubt he was scared, but he knew that volume-punching would play into Diaz's hands. Not everyone wants to do Rock'em Sock'em Robots.
Wrong, I thought it was a smart, tactical fight. He shut Diaz down for the most part. I guess nobody here ever heard the adage: "Don't punch with a puncher". Win today, look good tomorrow. Condit had a really exciting fight with Hardy, but Diaz is a swarmer. If he didn't hit and move, he would have taken unnecessary punishment. Not every fight is going to be bull against bull. Some are going to be bull against matador, and this time the matador won.
