MIGUEL COTTO Appreciation Thread...

I fully understand Steve's point. I know the expression. I know what he meant. It was just a opportunity to expound on your affliction as a PBF groupie. You're too dumb to realize this.

 

We are ALL "groupies" of one fighter or another. ALL OF US. Name one boxing fan that doesn't have a favourite fighter, current or past, and I'll say he's not a serious fan.

I happen to back a winner...so my position has been vindicated. You back guys like Castillo and that's why you're mad.

Don't hate, appreciate. :kidcool:

 

Cotto is fragile. Why? First off, he was never bulletproof or hard to hit in the first instance. The Torres fight had nothing to do with weight. It had to do with a fast uppercut to the temple. The guy has always been wobbled when nailed hard to the side of the dome. He seemed very very gun-shy in the Michael Jennings fight. Secondly, he has those beatings, hard fights and hard training sessions under his belt. Floyd by contrast, always the better boxer, has absorbed less punishment {in part due to his better skills, in part due to fighting guys at the right weight, right time, or not fighting them at all, and in part due to the years off he has taken, followed, as they always are, by fights with aged, dated, damaged or smaller guys}

So the fragility of Cotto is not just inherent to Cotto, but its also present in a relative sense. Relatively, Cotto is fragile compared to Mayweather. Inherently, Cotto is more susceptible to punishment than Mayweather, for the reasons explained.

And Mayweather knows this. And his flunkies know it too. So lets get dem rez-ume-ays out and start the fapping

 

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And when PBF loses for whatever reason, you'll find another fighter who you can pretend is invincible.

 

Floyd is past prime already. He'll lose eventually if he keeps fighting.

 

You make it sound like he was out there every 6 weeks taking dangerous rematches. Floyds fights got more planning than the Normandy Landing, occur about as often, just with much weaker opposition.

 

So who's next when you jump off the bandwagon as soon as Floyd loses?

It is kind of funny that all of the RJJ groupies are now Floyd fans.

 

Funny but fully predictable. Plus they can recycle the same arguments used to defend rjj. And engage in the same level of silly overrating.

 

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:giggle::giggle: Very true, ever since the Castillo fights.

 

Using the same apologetics as well. You could literally replace Floyd with Roy and you'd have the same idiots saying literally the same thing.

 

According to SOME of you Peter Gazing QUEERS, REED Started This Thread for the SOLE Purpose of Trumpeting an Opponent of Floyd's...& Even after REED Made it CLEAR that his ONLY Agenda was to Give Miguel Cotto Some Props, Some of Ya'll STILL Gave REED Flack for it:boohoo:...

Anyways, After Yet Another Career ENHANCING Performance (Even as he CLEARLY LOST), REED would like to Take the Time to AGAIN Appreciate Miguel Cotto AND to Tell you Conspiracy Theorists to Go FUCK Yourselves....



REED

 

What conspiracy? There's no conspiracy. Conspiracy by definition involves two or more people working together towards a common goal, and when it comes to black folk in general, and the Mayweathers in particular, that is a straight up impossibility. Cannot happen.

 

Cotto won me over

 

Cotto fought much much better than i ever imagined he would.

i was impressed! i thought Cotto would just get totally dominated and he actually fought very well!

Floyd still dominated in a way but i thought it would be a beating not a boxing match going 12

 

He won me over years ago. I always appreciated him, always was a big fan, a nice, low-key guy who really did fight a lot of good opponents. But the man from Del Monte does less hand-picking than Floyd. Floyd preys on the weak, the damaged, the suspect, the aged, the less-than-brand-new.

I don't doubt that Reed genuinely admires Cotto, but I don't doubt that he, like Floyd, wanted us all to believe this was something special. It's not. Floyd has aged, sure, but he's aged by the simple passing of time.

Cotto has aged through hard fights, illegal beatings, personal tragedies, his stye, etc.

He wasn't picked to win, its a travesty that Floyd earns as much as he does for what is routine deck-shuffling. What next? Rematch with Mosley? Retirement? Taking on the dangerous threat that is a resurgent Sharmba Mitchell?

We know we won't get the Pacquaio fight, whoever is to blame, it doesn't really matter.

Make the Amir Khan fight, if needs be. Neither of them deserve each other.

 

I'm a cotto fan.. even though that kind of lifestyle *gay* i don't really agree with... he is a great fighter

 

He's not gay.

 

As a personality he won me over years ago, I was just never sold on his style/ability. I still have my reservations, tbh, with the reliance on those huge sparring gloves for defense but I was impressed by his mental toughness and ring intelligence sat night

 

I was also very impressed. Cotto fought his ass off. There is nothing to be ashamed. In a way I feel sympathetic towards Miguel because he really wanted to win this.


WAR COTTO!!!!:bears::bears::bears::bears:

 

Yup, he gave it his best. Which sounds a bromidic statement except that a large portion of underdogs in big fights don't these days.....not really.

:bears:War Cotto!

 

Yes, not trying has become something of an art form. Cotto, Chisora, Peterson, have all come to win in recent title fights as big underdogs. You can throw Arreola in there too.

Guys like Mosley {vs Floyd}, Haye {vs Wlad} Clottey {vs Pac} are good examples of guys who wanted to be declared the winner, but didn't really want to do what might have been necessary to win.

Its usually obvious whats happening. The moving of hands is a dead give away. Moving forward is another big clue. If its moving forward, and throwing punches, it wants to win. It puts the rounds in the bank, or it gets the hose again. PUT THE FUCKING ROUNDS IN THE BANK!!!!

Chris Arreola. Oh wait. Was he a great big fat guy?

 

I felt this way until I rewatched Sanchez/Gomez with my old man yesterday. That's giving your best in a losing effort.

 

Well it's all relative, I guess. Relative to the standards of 2012 vs 1981, that is.

 

Miggles is awesome.

 

You're right. Both guys rarely give it their best shot these days.

 

Nobody wants to wind up in a nursing home with no teeth and no money. Boxing contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction. Oh sure you get a Lewis vs Vitali or a Barrera vs Morales, but then you also get a Barrera vs Pacquaio II or a Vitali vs Byrd. Nobody wants to die. Fighters are smarter. Smart fighters make for poor fights. Can't have it both ways.

By that same token....how hard did Quarry fight with his rematch with Ali? :dunno:

 

For Miggles it was a great effort. I mean that not in a way to make Miggles sound like a heartless pussy, but more than Miggles is a counter puncher by nature, not a pressure fighter or physical, in fighter.

But he obviously knew he wasn't going to lay back and pick Floyd apart on the outside, he knew his best chance was to just go for it, make Floyd uncomfortable, not give him time and space to think and get into a rhythm, and really use the only advantage he had over Floyd which was physical strength and power.

He was also clever enough not to keep rushing in like an idiot, as Hatton did. He applied intelligent pressure and it worked well.

You could see it didn't really come naturally to him, not dissimilar to the vastly inferior Peterdude against Khan, but he knew it was the best strategy to use, and gave a very good effort putting it into play.

 

I have always appreciated Cotto as well. Dude is one of those fighters that comes to fight and puts it all on the line. Gotta love him for that. Cotto in my opinion is an under appreciated fighter that deseves more credit. And I to want to fuck his wife. She has that dirty girl look to me. I'll Holla 5000

 

YOU Referred to this as the "Whoever Floyd's Next Opponent Is" Thread, which was a BULLSHIT Notion on Your Part...

REED has as HISTORY of Supporting Cotto, REED Detailed the Exact Fight when he Became of FAN of Cotto's, REED Outlined the Resume which Makes it a "Straight Up Impossibility" to NOT Appreciate the Man & REED DIDN'T Mention Floyd AT ALL in his Written Appreciation of him...

Not to Mention, REED Hasn't Hesitated in Being CRITICAL of Floyd, for the Last Couple YEARS Now...

The Bottom Line is YOU Jumped the Gun...You Questioned REED's Motives for Starting this Thread & U were 1,000% INCORRECT...Now Kindly Go FUCK Yourself, Por Favor....



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