Watch Clottey/Cotto and you will not be excited for PBF/Cotto...

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Double L, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Recently watched Cotto/Clottey. And while Cotto may or may not have eeked out that decision, he certainly was not in control of the fight.

    In fact, the fight exposes pointedly the flaws Cotto has and why he stands virtually no chance at all of beating PBF.

    If you watch PBF/ODH, one of the things you'll see is that ODH's success was due in large part to his willingness to trade with PBF. Nearly all of the offensive success ODH had in the fight, and there was plenty, occurred when ODH punched with PBF, or countered him. When this was not the case, and ODH tried swiveling between offense and defense, he was losing easily.

    This brings us back to Cotto. And many have mentioned it already, and I've now confirmed it's true. Cotto, seemingly as a rule, does not integrate his offense and defense. Rather, the two are compartmentalized and never brought out together. This is a huge advantage for his opponents. Huge.

    The other thing is, Cotto doesn't plant his feet or stand hsi ground very well. Rather, he's easily backed up and chased around the ring. This makes him tired, gives his opponent confidence, compromises his offense, and gives the impression he's losing.

    Whether you think Cotto pulled out the Clottey fight or not, he did not do a good job of dealing with Clottey's defense, countering his offense, or dominating the fight. Many in fact think he lost.

    Point is, if you watch Cotto/Clottey, you'll no longer be excited for PBF/Cotto, and you'll see that it's not the good match-up many are expecting it to be.
     
  2. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I wonder what is up with Clottey these days. According to the Floyd haters on here he is a great fighter.
     
  3. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Well, he is better than anyone PBF's faced at 147.

    And he looked pretty damn good against Cotto. I'll tell you that.

    I haven't seen him myself since his fight against Pacquiao.
     
  4. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Cotto/Clottey could have gone either way - yet Clottey looked pretty damn good, and Cotto was completely exposed.
     
  5. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Damn! I retired from my job to be able to prepare for this event and I sold my house to buy a bigger TV to see this fight. Now I watched the fight you recommended and all the excitement is gone.
     
  6. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Who said Cotto was exposed? The only reference I make to Cotto's ability is with respect to his chances against PBF. So yeah. Another non-point from Steve.
     
  7. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Sorry for that. Don't kill the messenger. :lol:
     
  8. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Damn thanks for proving my point.
     
  9. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    You did. Gad.

    "In fact, the fight exposes pointedly the flaws Cotto has and why he stands virtually no chance at all of beating PBF. "
     
  10. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    I didn't say he's great. I said he looked good against Cotto, a guy who beat Mosley, Margarito, Quintana and Judah.
     
  11. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Clottey fights nothing like Floyd. His defense is more like Winky Wright and he is way bigger and stronger than Mayweather.
     
  12. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    First, I don't know what Gad means.
    Second, I was very specific about what was exposed.
    Whatever. Again. Off my dick.
     
  13. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    He's not way bigger. And while he doesn't fight exactly like Floyd (obviously), many of the tactics he employed will only be expanded on by Floyd.
     
  14. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Ok.
     
  15. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Yes he is way bigger. They may be the same height but Clottey is much thicker.
     
  16. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    :nono:
     
  17. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Ok, Floyd is a giant. You win.
     
  18. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    I'm just kidding. Clottey is obviously a bigger man than Floyd. Double L is having a tough couple of days.
     
  19. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Cotto got very very lucky. He threw a basic jab that floored the guy, and that was key. Not saying that Cotto didn't gut it out, or at least force Clottey to choke, because he did, but I am saying he really did just barely get past him, and it had a lot to do with the knockdown.
     
  20. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Bless your heart Steve_Dave.
     
  21. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Totally. Clottey really shoulda won that fight. Unfortunately for him he's a choking dog.
     
  22. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Clottey is a skilled choke-artist.

    Appropriate that his most notable win came against Zab Judah.
     
  23. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Every time he says "PBF" "ODH" or "Castillo" in any combination, take a drink
     
  24. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    I like too drink but my liver couldn't handle that.
     
  25. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rcvmO2w4oxM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Joe Rogan is a chode but still does a decent job of describing folks like Double.
     
  26. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    how about a drink everytime loaded glove acts like a dick?
     
  27. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    You guys trying to put me in an alcohol induced coma?
     
  28. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Pbf has everyone fooled into thinking hes undersized.
     
  29. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    :l1::l1::l1::l1:
     
  30. Jab Hook

    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

    What about the GASH from the headbutt that left MAC's left eyebrow hanging off his face?
     

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