UFC officials considering Carlos Condit vs. Nick Diaz II

Can't see the rematch being much different, can you?

 

Hopefully Condit bring's his cajones this time.

 

According to yahoo!sports the rematch is set. Condit will not wait for GSP to rehab his injury and will go straight into a rematch with Diaz.

I personally, don't mind seeing those 3 tangle. All the combinations will make a great fight.

Diaz knows he has to increase the PACE even further, trying to cut the ring off more effectively, possibly making Condit even more dangerous.

Condit has to come in the same superb shape he came in the last time. The first 2 rounds looked like Diaz would walk him down in the later rounds but Condit only picked up steam down the stretch.

Great fight.

 

Doubt it. Nick just needs to be more explosive, he can't just stalk Condit the whole time.

 

Bullshit... If there is ANYONE who doesnt deserve an immediate rematch its Diaz. I feel that Hedricks deserves a shot at Condit and think it would be a great matchup as well.

 

About half the people who watched the fight scored it for Diaz. There is definitely grounds for a rematch. Even if Diaz was being a bitch after the fight.

 

Normally I don't like immediate rematches. But in this case it is much better than Condit being on the shelf for 8 months waiting for GSP.

And if Condit is going to fight again before GSP, it shouldn't be against anyone BUT Nick Diaz.

 

Agreed, it was a really hard to score close fight. I thought it really could have gone either way.

 

And then when Diaz gets a close decision in the next fight do we need a rubber match to determine who fights GSP for the title?

The UFC didn't like what happened in the first fight. They disagree with some of you who commended Condit for doing what it takes to get a win rather than fighting to be exciting, and they want GSP vs Nick Diaz to happen.

I've already predicted that ufc 143 will bomb in the buy rates. If it does, any Condit vs Diaz rematch will not headline a ppv card. It will probably end up as a free card on fx or maybe a co-main event.

 

How many buys would deem it a bomb in your opinion?

 

LOL.

 

you quoted 275,000 as the low number of recent ppv's. I think it will be below that and probably noticeably below that. It was a shit ppv card on paper for casual fans and it wasn't a very good card on paper for big fans who are objective. That's not you two ufc shills, btw.

 

Come on dude, be a man and step up. 'Noticeably below' 275K means nothing.

Give me the number of buys you'd consider a bomb for this PPV which would make the UFC make the rematch a free card as you indicated.

Don't just say it's going to bomb without quantifying. That's pussified.

 

Really? Show me where I said 275K was the lowest of recent PPV's.

 

How the fuck is saying it will be the lowest of recent memory being a puss?
I don't know what the floor of the UFC ppv buyrate is, but I do think this will set it.

The UFC has flooded the market recently with free product and better product and this ppv is thrown in right in the middle and it was nothing special.

 

From the "Final Diaz Condit picks" thread:

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This card is going to bomb. UFC flooded the market lately and there's nothing about this card to interest casual fans.

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You: post 12: I think you underestimate Nick's popularity. He's not Jones or GSP popular, but the guy has a following.

Amazingly at the weigh-in most of the crowd was supporting Diaz. Condit actually got booed.

The UFC's cards that coincide with the Super Bowl have been mostly successful in the past. But 3 of the last 4 have involved GSP, Silva or Lesnar. The one that tanked, with about 275,000 buys, was UFC 109 in 2010 that featured the miserable Couture-Coleman main event.

I think this card will do a reported 350-500K buys. If Diaz can carry a card to that type of buy rate, I would consider it a success. For the casual fan there isn't much on this card other than the main event.


mE: post 23: Based on your numbers and the superbowl perspective, I am saying it will do under 275k buys. I think it is a horrible card in terms of mass appeal.

If it does 350k or better buys, I'm definitely wrong."

 

OK, so you're comparing it to other Super Bowl weekend cards and not recent PPV's.. Correct?

 

It's being a puss because you waiver. If you want to say "lowest of recent memory" then Edgar-Maynard III which did only 225K buys in October 2011 and Aldo-Mendes at 225k as recently as a freaking month ago should be your comparison. Not some arbitrary 350K number.

Damn, do you try to be this stupid?????

 

Arbitrary? You obviously don't know what that word means. The number I used came from your estimate, dipshit.

Arbitrary:

<LI style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE: decimal">Based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

Why didn't you throw the 225K number at me when I brought this up earlier? Fine, I'll say it will be below 225K. No, I say it will be below 223,118. Better? How about 113,947? I say it will be below that. Better? If you are so worried that I might be right, let's put it at a number so that I will be wrong rather than the general sentiment that I started out with.

 

OK, I am going to say this slowly. The 275 was referring to the lowest recent Super Bowl card which was Couture-Coleman.

Your comment was about recent UFC PPV's and not exclusive to Super Bowl cards.

And, yes, I think 'arbitrary' is the perfect word unless 225, 275 and 350 are the same in your world. In my world there is a big gap between 275 and 350, which led me to believe that your number of 350 being the barometer between success and failure was "based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system."

Now, you can correct me by telling me the reasoning or system you used to come up with 350K...

I'll wait, because I know this will take you some time to comprehend. Good luck.

 

You put forth 350K as being your low estimate.

You s*ck the UFC c*ck.

I conceded that your number was noticeably higher than what I was predicting--shitty buy rate for this ppv. If there is a Super Bowl weekend boost, then 275K seems like a fair gauge; if there isn't then 225K seems like a fair gauge (but I still wonder why you didn't put it up for discussion before?)

edit: The forum won't let me say that you su ck the ufc c ock? Seriously?

 

My guess is right around 300K Buys. Which would make it a finacial success for the UFC. The live gate was over 2 million.

 

The prelims had an audience of about 1.4 million which isn't terrible.

I am very curious to see how the PPV did.

 

It will be a financial success at 100K buys. The live gate covered salaries and then some. 100K brings in at least $2 million extra to the UFC if they give away 1/2 to the ppv providers. There can't be anywhere near $2 million in expenses to put on an event.