Watch Clottey/Cotto and you will not be excited for PBF/Cotto...

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  1. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't. You, however, are a dumb retarded cunt.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    You're an idiot by the way, you're not shitting on anyone. You have no idea what you're talking about. Some fighters simply stay closer to fighting weight between fights, and don't gain much in the ring.

    I think Hopkins was lighter than many opponents in the ring, yet looked bigger than pretty much everyone he faced at 160.

    Manny was heavier than Oscar on fightnight, obviously pumped himself full of creatine and meat, while Oscar didn't manage to rehydrate properly. Yet who the fuck would watch that fight and say yep, Manny was the bigger man for sure.

    I've had to make weight, so have a pretty good idea of what's involved and how difficult it is if you're trim anyway. Your experience consists of getting slapped around in a gym by a clubfighter.

    Your whole "Floyd weighs the same in the ring" is an inane and pointless statement. Who fucking cares? He's not a lightweight, he couldn't make lightweight, so why bother to even bang on about? If Marquez weighed the same in the ring as Floyd in their fight, which he might have, would you say they're the same size? Of course you fucking wouldn't.

    It would be the same story with Pacquiao. Pacquiao likes to put on a bit more weight than Floyd, he might weigh a pound more in the ring, but would still look at least a weight division smaller.

    James Toney would come to the ring weighing more than Vitali, who in their right mind would say he's the bigger man.

    I've sparred a 5'6 featherweight who walked around probably 7 pounds more than me. It doesn't mean anything, he still seemed like a featherweight, smaller and weaker.

    There's more to size than pure weight.

    I don't give a fuck if Floyd doesn't put on much weight, he's still a welterweight, and would still struggle to even make 140.
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Dude I don't care if you're white, or if MWS is Jewish, or whatever. I was born and raised in the US, in 1980. I'm intelligent, relatively young and from a first world country. Unlike you guys, I don't live in a 3rd world backwater where bigotry isn't passé (I avoid the South).

    About half of my friends are white or Jewish. Nobody's ethnicity or religious beliefs make a whits difference to me. I hate MWS because he is as dumb as a frozen turd.
     
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    Except for the fact that I'm more intelligent than you and your whole genetically deficient family put together.
     
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    How can an intelligent person hate someone they have never met and only vaguely know from an internet message board?

    MTF
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    The resident contrarian spastic, likely still butt-hurt from an earlier encounter, weighs in with nothing useful to back up his claim. Color me surprised.
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Are you seriously asking this? I've never met Josh Powell and don't know him at all, but I hate him.
     
  9. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    And you're also a star amateur boxer (what was your record again) and work on 3d maths blah blah nobody cares
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Your lack of ability to think rationally is causing you to conflate two entirely disparate things. Gaining and losing fat and muscle, and gaining and losing water/glycogen.

    Oh, and I found your claim that Manny "pumped himself up full of creatine" to be humorous, can you cite a source for that?


    You clearly don't know shit and are posing. This is further evidenced by the fact that you pooh-pooh getting schooled by a clubfighter vis a vis your imaginary amateur career. The clubfighter I was in with was a trainer who fought De La Hoya and Gabe Ruelas, he would've kicked the shit out of your internet-athlete ass. You remind me of the idiot MMA fanboys at Sherdog who are all Gracies in their minds.

    As for my knowledge of biology, nutrition, endocrinology etc it dwarfs yours and I've demonstrated this time and again.

    Again, your deficiency in ability to think rationally is causing you two conflate two disparate things.

    Floyd would have to lose water to make 135, 13 lbs of water is entirely possible and many lightweights do it.

    JMM gained fat for his fight at 144. Even if he weighed the same, their body composition was different.

    Unfortunately for your line of thinking, weight divisions are based on how much you weigh, not how big you think someone looks. Losing water = losing water, losing fat = losing fat, losing muscle = losing muscle. You are mixing and matching these things willy-nilly because you are stupid.


    Again, it doesn't matter if there's more to size than pure weight, to fight in a weight class you only have to make a weight. And cutting 7+1 or 7+2 lb of water is not unreasonable or difficult for any grown male athlete.

    Why? Again, what's magical about his body that would make it harder for him to lose 9 lbs of water than say, Timothy Bradley?

    This entire argument from your point of view can be summed up as "Floyd can't lose 9 lbs of water because he doesn't." Forget Floyd and forget boxing, this is stupid from a purely biological perspective. It's even dumber when you consider that it's well known that Floyd doesn't dry out because he simply doesn't like to, which was further evidenced by his willingness to pay Marquez 600k to not cut another 2 lb of weight. It's part ego, part arrogance, and partially because he simply doesn't have to. You think if welter was a loaded and dangerous division right now Floyd would be fighting at 147? His only other real test there is Pac, who is about the same weight as Floyd.
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    If I ran this board, I would seriously ban you for stupidity for this post.

    How can it escape you that the Democrats of back then are the Republicans of today? The Southern Democrats all went Southern Republican en masse, see Nixon's "Southern Strategy." How many Democrats today fly the confederate flag vs Republicans? Have you ever had a thought in your puny little mind?

    People wonder why I come off as angry. It's because people like you exist and are allowed to speak.
     
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    So republicans before Nixon, good.Republicans after, bad? Is that what the huffington post taught you?

    So who were the democrats?
    And does this mean eisenhower was in fact a democrat? And Roosevelt a republican?

    So you,re saying if only i were schooled like you on the rationalization and justification as to why the democrats had been racist but not anymore, and now by the way its the republicans who are racist, i could be as smart as you?
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I'm not even remotely interested in discussing anything with you. You are worse than MWS. MWS is offensive because he can't think well, you are offensive because you can't/don't think at all.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Contrarian? Everyone thinks you are a cunt and I agree. I am with the masses on this issue.
     
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    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I'm amused that you chose to refute "contrarian," but not "spastic" or "butt-hurt." At least you're honest.
     
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