Could Floyd make 135 as easily as the average lightweight?

Your hero is not a lightweight and does not earn extra p4p-points for being smaller than his opponents. Accept it.

 

Floyd isn't my hero, I also don't think he is a lightweight and never claimed he was.

 

So was it you that voted Yes?

 

The results are public Z, just click on the 1.

 

Floyd is strong

 

Well shit, I had no idea. Thank you sir.

 

The only reason he didn't vote yes is so he won't get mocked and ridiculed even more than he already is.

From his own ugly, retarded little mouth - "Why couldn't Floyd make 135 as easily as a lightweight?" ::

 

I rarely bother voting in polls, especially not when the question is rigged in a retarded fashion, as my posts have explained.

I might call people like you stupid and such, but I have and establish a basis for doing so prior to doing it. You fail to make any worthwhile points, and then fall back on baseless and childish insults like "ugly" "cockchoking" "jihad" etc when cornered. It's not even original, funny, or clever. It just makes you look like even more of a moron - something you really don't need.

You would never be able to refute the post I made in a thousand years. Even if you had the intelligence to construct a solid argument - and you don't - you would still have a tough time, since I'm stating simple obvious facts here.. as opposed to your incoherent, shifting opinions couched in evasive language and peppered with idiotic playground insults.

 

21 to 1 you fucking idiot.

You got pwned as per usual, scrub. Keep on deluding yourself into thinking you actually get the better of any arguments, ever.

 

You're such an idiot it's unreal ::

This is essentially all the evidence needed to show that loadedretard does in fact think Floyd is still a lightweight.

If Floyd made 135, Guerrero would beat him.

 

No

 

So basically, it took you almost three days to come up with "you're wrong and you suck <emoticons>." You haven't refuted or addressed a single point I've made, the whole strength of your argument rests on "people on a messageboard agree with me when I post a leading question in a simplistic binary fashion." Whoopty fucking doo.

 

It doesn't matter, your sillly long winded post is irrelevant. I didn't even bother to read it.

21 people disagree with you, and 1 person agrees with you. You can write as many silly, long winded posts are you want and it won't change a thing.

I'm right, and you're wrong. That's because I'm a winner, and you're a loser.

 

oh, ok

I apologize for taxing your feeble mind with the 60 word novel I wrote up there. I know that's not just an excuse for your lack of any sort of real response.

 

My real response is that anyone who thinks Floyd could make 135 as comfortably as a lightweight is out of their fucking mind, as evidenced by my poll of 21 to 1.

The 1 being a known Floyd groupie.

It's not even worth arguing about. It's like arguing who would make 175 easier, Adamek or Jean Pascal.

 

No one who looks like this at a 147 pound weigh in is making lightweight without half killing themselves. I can't believe anyone would argue otherwise. I don't care if he doesn't put on much weight, Floyd is getting down much below 140. Same as Mosley. Mosley is also a smallish welter, but he IS a welter, and he's not making 140 let alone 135.

 

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But that's the question, that's what you're arguing. You actually asked "Why couldn't Floyd make 135 as easily as a lightweight who walks around at the same weight?".

The poll is completely fair.

The answer is actually pretty fucking simple. Even taking Floyd's age out of the equation, the age where making weight becomes notoriously more difficult, Floyd would have to lose muscle and a lightweight like Guerrero wouldn't. It's that simple.

 

Floyd looks to be around 11% bodyfat in that pic and isn't dry at all. You think he has nothing to lose because you can see 4 abs, when he's flexing them besides? You really don't know shit.

Shane weighs over 160 lbs for his welterweight fights. Baldomir weighed 162 lb for his fight with Floyd.

Take away the day before weigh-in and basically every non-heavyweight in boxing not named Floyd Mayweather Jr or Manny Pacquiao is moving up a couple of divisions. But these two have something magical about them that prevents them from doing what everyone else is doing. It's either that, or they're so much better than everyone else that they don't simply because they don't have to, and it's much easier not to. Wonder what side Occam's Razor falls on in this instance?

 

Why would he have to lose muscle to lose 13 lbs of water? You realize that Carlos Baldomir lost 15 lbs of water for his fight with Floyd, right? Antonio Margarito put on 17 lbs for his fight with Cotto the day after the weigh-in. Hell, tiny Jorge Arce dropped and restored something like 19 lbs for his fight with Hussy Hussein. Were they gaining and losing muscle magically in one day? Herp Derp. This isn't hard to understand. Every healthy grown adult male has 13 lbs of water to lose.

 

.. You are aware that the weigh-in is the day before the fight, and that since that became the case in the 80s, almost all fighters now dehydrate down at least a couple of divisions to make weight, right? It seems as though you are totally unaware of this.

 

You place too much importance on ring weights.

If Marquez weighed the same as Floyd in their fight, would you say they were the same size? It's actually very possible he could have done, if he had pumped himself full of steaks and juice etc, and creatine.

Floyd didn't put on much weight at 135, but by anyone's estimation, he was a fairly big lightweight. In fact he looked almost as big as Castillo in his first fight there.

I could bulk up to 180 if I wanted to, making my in ring weight the same as someone like Frock or Chavez JR, who would dwarf me.

Floyd in that pic doesn't have 12 pounds of water and fat to lose.

 

NO Mayweather cannot make 135, shit he might have plenty of problems making 140...

 

Because I think Floyd has to lose a few pounds of water to make 147.

He doesn't look dry, but he doesn't look fully hydrated either. At fight time he looks less dry than those pics.

If Floyd walked at 147 you'd have a point.

 

He could do 140, but not easily. Let's not forget, he's not made 140 in 6 fucking years or so, and he's put on a good few pounds of muscle at 140.

Look at the pics above, then look at weigh in pics against Corley or someone.

 

Yep.

 

He weighs 148-149 typically in the ring. That's 1-2 whole lb, less than you would typically lose while sleeping 8 hours. No matter how much you try, you're not going to find any extra weight to magically pull out of your ass, aside from maybe whatever your head weighs (and that appears to be lodged there permanently).

Another thing you're missing is that most lightweights DO suffer to make 135. They don't train on Popeyes and licorice the way Floyd does.

 

Again you conflate fat, water and muscle with one another. You really have no idea wtf you're talking about. It does make me laugh when you talk about "pumping yourself up with steaks and creatine.". You silly little fob chav. I'm guessing you've never seen the inside of a gym in your life.

 

Is this really a pic of someone with 11% bodyfat? Can you refer us to something that shows people with different bodyfat %'s? I would have guessed Floyd is no higher than 8%, but I'm no expert on it.

 

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Where's your credentials gladys?

21 to 1, bitch.