Is it fair to judge fights on the basis of hand-speed?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Double L, Feb 22, 2012.

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Is it proper to take into account hand-speed when judging a fight?

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  2. No

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  1. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Do you think it's proper to take into account hand-speed when judging a fight?

    Should three punches landed at blazing speed count for more than three that land with only average hand speed?
     
  2. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Um no.
     
  3. Shoeshiner

    Shoeshiner WBC Champion

  4. Nobleart

    Nobleart Narwhal King

    The power and the accuracy of the punches should be the most important aspect of any exchange. :dunno:

    Not how fast they were delivered.

    There's nothing I hate more then an inaccurate shoeshine, and Jim Lampley going off into a convulsion of libidinous man love.
     
  5. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Thing is, Lampley's not alone. My guess is there's fans everywhere who get a hard on everytime a fighter lands with speed. So much so, that fighter can take off entire minutes of a round and still win it. Afterall, he's the faster fighter.
     
  6. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Those arent real boxing fans
     
  7. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Nah.
     
  8. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    :lol: True.

    And Double L is also correct. Boxing has, seemingly overnight, metamorphosed from a sport where flash, pizazz, and glitter rank equally, if not outright superior to, technique, guile and subtlety.

    Again, the irony is palpable- given that the UFC/MMA, supposedly on the rise, is inhabited by participants who wouldn't know handspeed if it jumped up and smacked them in the face.

    Ironically, the UFC has more time for the groping, meandering, shuffling, reaching machinations of its combatants, with boxing now indulging itself in the icing-sugar that is "handspeed and footspeed"
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2012
  9. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Of course not, but usually the guy who lands faster also lands more often or more cleanly, which are correct reasons to score the round for the fighter.

    Again, if you would mention which fight you mean instead of hinting, we could get much more out of this
     
  10. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Last Time REED Checked, Handspeed WAS NOT a Part of Boxing's Scoring Criteria..."Clean, Effective Punching, Ring Generalship, Defense, etc."...

    What's your ANGLE, Doub???...

    REED:Lok:
     
  11. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    True, but an ACCURATE Shoeshine is 1 of the PRETTIER Moments in Boxing...



    REED:hammert:
     
  12. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    The Ability to Get Shots Off QUICKER & to Deliver them in RAPID SUCCESSION is a GIFT, Dude...

    The Next Time You Hear a Fighter Say, "I Wish my Hands were SLOWER", Let REED Know, Alright???...Handspeed is a Quality that ANY & EVERY Fighter Wants, Doub...To Start an ANTI-Handspeed Thread is Silly...



    REED :scared:
     
  13. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    By Itself, The WORD "Handspeed" Insinuates Something...A Visual Image of SOME SORT Springs to Mind, Upon the Mere Utterance of it...

    Doub DISLIKES the Mental Picture Triggered by the Word "Handspeed"...




    REED:mj:
     
  14. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Because face first brawlers rarely have any of it.
     
  15. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Like Spike Lee, Reed's doing the right thing. :crafty:

    Shots landed and aggression is the primary element of scoring.
     
  16. :giggle:

    Honestly Double L, honestly! :pathetic:
     
  17. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Why would I do that? So the conversation can degenerate into a pointless debate about details instead of a broader discussion of concrpts and principles?
     
  18. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Eh, what?:lol: You're a pretty abstract dude, L, I like it
     
  19. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Doub Definitely has a UNIQUE Take on Boxing & he's UNapologetic about it...& It's Actually GOOD for a Boxing Messageboard...



    REED:dancingBaby:
     
  20. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Because, just like the last time, rules obviously say that handspeed is not a scoring criteria, and thus there is nothing to discuss here unless you can come up with an example where round or fight would have been scored wrong because of this.

    Same way you could make a thread of Is it fair to judge fights on the basis of tallness. What could we possibly discuss about there? And why would you even ask this if you don't think this kind of problem exists?:dunno:
     
  21. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    I scored the first Mayweather/Castillo fight 7-5 for Floyd.
     
  22. Shoeshiner

    Shoeshiner WBC Champion

    And Floyds speed advantge was the deciding factor.
     
  23. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Via landing more punches with it.
     
  24. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I wonder if we should score rounds on the basis of who has the longer arms. :scratcher:
     
  25. Shoeshiner

    Shoeshiner WBC Champion

    I know, im just :stir:
     
  26. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    How about shoulder size?
     
  27. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ


    Wide shoulders scare your opponent (as well as leopard trunks bother your vision) so they make him fight frightened and thus you win rounds based on ring generalship
     
  28. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    Well...I'm wondering if you don't award the fighter FACING a fighter with leopard trunks with an automatic 10-8 round .

    You can't judge it fairly if one guy has wide shoulders or leopard trunks...

    Maybe if the wide shoulder guy also has leopard trunks he will automatically lose two rounds 10-9

    Now if you have one fighter with big shoulders and the other fighter is wearing leopard trunks...then I'd say it's a wash
     
  29. A better question would be:

    Is it fair to judge fights on the basis of blackness?
     
  30. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    No doubt. If a round is so close you feel compelled to score it 10 - 10, maybe we should all score it 10 - 9 to the guy with the lighter skin? :kidcool:
     

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