Maidana Vs Alexander?

This one.

 

If you think that's questionable, you misread it.

 

Alexander is a bottom level world class fighter. Maidana is garbage. He would be better at breeding donkies in Tierra del fuego than as a pugilist. Even when he beat Ortiz, I said he was a piece of shit and Ortiz was just not cut out to be a professional fighter.

What is funny to me is St. Louis must be the most boring place on Earth. Cory Spinks and Devon Alexander are two of the most boring pieces of shit ever and they (St. Louisians) love them. I would be horrified were they from my home town. Also funny is the back stories for both of them. Both are supposedly from "hard as fuck" backgrounds and both fight like schoolgirls in heat. I can't imagine either of those retards in a street fight, although the City of ST. LOUIS is way bigger then any ring. They can run, grab and stink all through the city streets.

 

Based On???...& No, your Fandom DOESN'T Count...



REED:boohoo:

 

Alexander moved up by necessity. He said so. Madaina, on the other hand, said before the fight he was perfectly capable of making 140. Apparently, the only reason Madaina moved up was because for some reason, though Alexander was moving up to 147, he wanted to fight a 140 pounder. I don't know. Maybe you're with Max and think none of this is worth mentioning.

 

:: Jerry Quarry bombed out Shavers in a round. Nobody bombed out Earnie like that. ::

Alexander is a solid pro and a future Floyd victim. Thats about it. He's not marquee timber and he's not pfp timber either.

 

Spare REED your NUTHUGGING Bullshit, Doub...

The ONLY Reason Alexander "Said" Moving Up was a Necessity was to EXCUSE his String of SHITTY Performances @ 140...Had he DECISIVELY Beaten Kotelnik, Matthhhhyysse & Actually Bothered to Show Up vs. Bradley, REED Doubts Very Seriously we'd Hear this Line of Thinking from him...

The Only Reason YOU'RE Buying Into this BULLSHIT is Because it Makes the Latest Limited, Face 1st, 1 Dimensional SLUGGER (that's Earned YOUR Infatuation) Look Better...

Was there ANY Size Difference IN the Ring???...Did Maidana Look Particularly Sluggish @ the Higher Weight???...

NO on Both Counts...



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Valid Point...

Chris Byrd TKO'ed Vitali Klitschko, Something NOBODY Else has Been Able to Do...Nonetheless, it Would've Been Foolish to Get Toooo HIGH on Byrd, Despite the KO VICTORY Forever Attached to his Resume...




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Byrd walked him down and made him quit. Legit win. Vitali was throwing shots with both hands throughout.

 

So alexander is moving up in weight why? So in your mind alexander was every bit as strong at 140? That he could repeat his perf. Sat. at 140, and that at 147 he'd be equally susceptible against bradley, mathysse and mkotelnik?

Ok. If that's your take fine. Now let me have mine which is every bit as plausble, (and more correct imo) as yours.

 

:notallthere:

 

The BOTTOM LINE Is This....

You're AFFORDING Maidana the LUXURY of POSSIBLY Fighting @ a Weight he Didn't Belong @, Because U LIKE HIM as a Fighter...No MORE, No LESS...You LIKE Maidana & his Style, You PICKED him to Win & Now U're Clinging to ANYTHING U Can, to JUSTIFY your Offbase Prediction...PERIOD...

Alexander was NO MORE a "True" Welter than Maidana was, yet U REFUSE to Look @ That, as a Reason WHY Alexander SCHOOLED your Latest Favorite Fighter...1nce U Place that HATEFUL Gaze Upon a Fighter, it's IMfuckingPOSSIBLE for him to EVER Get an Objective Opinion Out of U...Such is the Case w/Alexander...

Roy Jones EMBARRASSED WHOlio Gonzalez, After YOU PICKED Gonzalez, yet U Chalked it Up to Being "Facetious"...Roy WHIPS Ruiz, After YOU BOLDLY Proclaimed that Roy would "NEVER Go Thru w/the Fight", yet Dude Still CAN'T Get a Shred of Credit from U...Floyd's Beaten JL Castillo AND Dela, yet YOU STILL Accuse him of "Cherrypicking":limp:...

So EXCUSE REED if he Thinks you're FULL of Shit, when U Post these "Objective" Opinions of Yours...


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I gave pbf all kinds of credit and was his fan until he moved up to 140 and began playing the same games rjj played.

 

Does anyone know what the purses were for Saturday's fights?

 

Thats basically what I saw. Maidana to me looked exactly the same way he did against Khan.

Its just that Devon was able to discourage him with his power and he neutralized him inside, unlike Khan who just covers up and runs like a bitch.

 

Yep, that was why Maidana had as much success against Khan as he did, Khan cant fight inside at all, not one bit.

 

Do you really still think Alexander sucks? I'm struggling to figure out what the fight on Saturday means. Probably not much, but I personally thought he might lose to Maidana. At the very least I thought he'd fall apart late.

 

He might be p4p.

Seriously, though, i hate to say it but we don't really know at this point, because alexander has yet to fight a contender at 147.

The most we can say is that alexander appears adept at standing up to and controlling strong hard-punching 140 pounders, when he fights them at 147.

 

You answered your own question. The very fact that you had no confidence in him, and felt he might fall apart against a guy who himself nearly fell apart vs old ass Morales, is proof enough that Alexander is nothing more than a solid competent pro.

 

Not really.

I thought he'd fall apart and he didn't. So he's better than I thought going in.

 

Bullshit aside.......there are TKO's and there are TKO's....at any rate, a 1 round blowout is completely different from ANY sort of TKO.

Only a fool would compare Quarry's 1 round destruction of feared Earnie Shavers with a guy retiring via injury.

Alexander is a solid pro. He's little more. I give him respect for finding a decent win, but it flatters to deceive.

 

Not sure, I'm in the same boat as you. I kind of saw the fight as a pick em, but felt compelled to pick Maidana because of the shit I've talked about Alexander. Truthfully I was leaning towards Maidana too, because Alexander has just never impressed me, and seemed to seriously lack what it takes against Bradley for example.

So he obviously did far better than expected, but maybe Maidana was just a great style matchup for him? Like Urango too, maybe he just matches up very well against crude, limited tough guy types.

Against guys who were a bit more skillful and crafty like Kotelnik and even Matthyse, he didn't look up to much at all, nevermind the Bradley fight.

I don't buy into the weight drained talk either. He never looked particularly drained at 140, and doesn't really look like a proper welter either.

Who knows though, he might prove to be decent at 147.

My opinion of him is still largely the same, in that he's average at world level. He doesn't totally suck, and obviously matches up well with certain fighters.

 

This. He's OK, not much more. Max Kellerman might want to bear his children, but that's got fuck all to do with the boxing. Max is probably playing with his "Devon Alexander Edition Pound-For-Pound Starter Kit" right now.

 

Alexander held Maidana all night.

 

Did Lederman interject? Did Max offer his wisdom on the matter? Of course not. And Max had Day-Von annointed as this great pocket fighter. ::

 

You Mean like Khan Did???...Oh, but that was the 7 Extra Pounds, More than Anything Else.....




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NOBODY Expected a GERIATRIC Morales to Give Maidana a Good Fight...N Terms U'd Appreciate, Even FEWER Expected Chris Byrd to TKO Vit Klit....




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the weight certainly helped alexander. he was probably not lying about being tight at 140 and he still looked ripped at 47. maidana on the other hand looked soft at 140 and soft saturday night. still a good showing and a quality win for alexander.

 

Khan was one punch away from an early stoppage, a first round stoppage, he was also one punch away from a KO loss, at 140, vs Maidana.

Alexander never came close to losing by KO, he never came close to winning by KO.....Maidana never came close to losing by KO, nor winning by KO- a state of affairs best explained by the fact that both men were fighting 7lbs north of their original weights and by the fact that neither man was fighting Khan.

 

I thought Maidana looked pretty good, but otherwise I agree.

I've concluded that mY main problem with 'this era' of boxing is that I am suspecting everyone of being on PEDs whenever they no longer get tired or when they improve when moving up in weight. I'm reluctant to give Alexander the full props he may deserve because of how much he 'improved' in this fight compared to others.

The sport needs universal drug testing in the ballpark of cycling and the olympics.