Mayweather: Pacquiao is Not Getting 50-50, No One Is!

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    In all honesty though, it's a shame that we haven't got to see Floyd fight 1 legit, prime welter.
     
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    Why should it be noted?
     
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    Do you think that Manny has?
     
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    Given his Well Documented History w/the IRS, it's Obvious Floyd Could USE the Money a Pacquiao Fight would Generate...Even 50% would Likely Result in THE LARGEST Take Floyd Ever Gets from Boxing...

    Nonetheless, he's Perfectly Willling to SQUANDER It...Morseo, Manny Brought Up an EXTREMELY Fair Counter Offer of 55-45, w/the WINNER Getting the 55%, yet Floyd WON'T Even Entertain that Either...

    It's DISGRACEFUL just how SPOOKED Floyd is of Manny Pacquiao...Has ANY Fighter EVER Sat Back & ALLOWED "The Biggest & Most IMPORTANT Fight of his Career", Go by the Wayside to the Degree that Floyd has, in this Case???




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    What the fuck has that got to do with anything? We're talking about Floyd here, why do you have to mention Manny in every single conversation, in every single topic that includes Floyd?

    They are 2 different fighters you know, you can talk about one without the other.
     
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    Thread title: Mayweather: Pacquiao is Not Getting 50-50, No One Is!

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    Idiot.
     
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    The weirdest thing is that he hasn't nutted up even since Marquez 3. Pacquiao looked as beatable as ever, if there was ever a time to fight Pacquiao it's now.

    I think after seeing that fight, almost every boxing fan in the world would pick Floyd to win, yet Floyd is still shit scared of the little 5'5 Filipino who wears a belt and pulls his trousers up really high.
     
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    And I'm talking about Floyd, idiot, not Pacquiao.

    Idiot.
     
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    Everyone, including you, including in the post you just made before this one, has been talking about both fighters throughout this thread. That is to be expected, given the thread title. You echoing my insults repeatedly in a childish fashion is silly and pointless. I actually established a basis for calling you an idiot, and you only lent support to my basis in your attempt to portray me as the same.
     
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    You are an idiot though, it's common knowledge around these parts, it kind of goes without saying actually. An obnoxious little cretin with the IQ of a fencepost. In this particular instance, as per usual, your powers of perception fail you, hence me calling you an idiot.

    But I digress.

    I know exactly what the thread is about, my post was just an incidental observation not related to the thread at hand, just a musing of Floyd's potential ability at 147.

    I genuinely think it's a shame that a fighter as good as Floyd is such a pussy who has taken no risks at all since Castillo.

    Floyd fans are fucking ridiculous. The most insecure, pissy little fans in boxing history. You say one little thing about Floyd and they instantly go on the defensive and start yapping about Pacquiao :lol:

    Pathetic.
     
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    It's hilarious that Floyd fans will hype garbage like Ortiz, yet shit on Pac's entire resume. Accusing Manny of handpicking opponents? Look at Floyd fucking resume! He's been doing it for a damn decade!

    What's also funny, is that on the press tour for the Cotto fight, Floyd can't even keep Pac's name out of his mouth. He's still going on and on about testing as if that is still an issue. He's using Pac's name to hype his fight with Cotto, trying to convince idiots that Manny ducked him.
     
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    Zab was legit as was Baldomir. Ortiz is/was legit also.
     
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    Ah, what would one of this idiot's posts be without the classic "EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME" appeal?

    If you knew what the thread was about, you wouldn't have been surprised that someone brought up Pacquiao when Floyd was being discussed, or vice versa. In the context of this thread as well as the discussion taking place and your point, that is patently stupid.

    I find it funny you call me "little" all the time, by the way. You are much smaller than me. Just another baseless bitchword from you, you're like women who call people "honey" in bitchy tones. Speaking of which, have you looked into testosterone replacement therapy yet?

    This coming from the guy who thinks Pacquiao is a clean athlete whose list of opponents since 130 is an all-time murderers row.
     
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    Sly I've known you for a while and I know you know better than this, much better.

    Ortiz and Zab are both 140 pounders with 1 good win at 147.

    Ortiz is also not legit, he's a talented fighter with the mental strength of a schoolchild.

    Baldomir is a walking punch bag.

    It would have been interesting to see Floyd against big aggressive welters like Tall Paul or Plasterito, or a proper welter who could punch and box a bit like prime Oscar.

    What I really meant though is it would have been fun to see mythical matches like Floyd Vs Curry, let alone Floyd vs the Fab 4.

    The only Floyd fan on this site that is realistic about Floyd at 147 is Neil.
     
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    I wouldn't have said anything if anyone other than Roy said the same thing. Roy is one of the clan of insecure Floyd groupies who HAS to mention Pacquiao anytime Floyd's name comes up. A bit like you I guess.

    It was a genuine observation/musing, not an invitation for another pathetic Manny/Floyd pissing contest.

    Wrong, as per usual. It's a recurring theme with you.

    I don't think Pacquiao is clean, and I don't think his post 130 run is an all-time murderer's row.

    I think his post 130 run is incredible and unprecedented for a man of his size especially when you consider the sheer domination of the performances.
     
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    Zab knocked out Cory Spinks, who the HUGE Jermain Taylor couldn't stop and who had beaten the legitimate BIG Welter champ called Mayorga (when Mayorga was peak).

    his 140lb fighter talk doesn't cut it...when you consider all of this. Was Thomas Hearns just a Welterweight?

    As for Ortiz, his victory over a then undefeated Berto is grossly underestimated. Also Ortiz is a legit Welterweight...he's a bigger man than Floyd in any event.
     
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    Ortiz is a career 140 pounder, he's not a welter. He's also not proven enough at 147 to be considered a welter, despite having 1 good win there.

    Zab is a better win, but again, it's Zab. Who hasn't beaten Zab?

    Zab and Ortiz are similar, both have legit talented, but fall short of being elite fighters by just not quite having what it takes mentally.

    Zab and Ortiz are also similar in that they both have 1 good win and that's about it.

    Even the version of Oscar that Floyd fought shits on people like Zab and Ortiz, hence why it was a much closer fight.
     
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    The irony of that "observation/musing" is glaring to anyone who knows you dream of Manny's dong in your mouth every night, considering who Manny has fought since Marquez 2. You just don't like it being pointed out because you're passionate about Manny's scrotum.

    Oh, and as far as Floyd taking no risks post Castillo - didn't you pick Hatton to beat him?
     
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    We've been down this road many times before and obviously will never see eye to eye.

    I say this: ONE legit win in a title fight in a division is enough to say that you belong in that division.
     
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    I don't like what being pointed out? That Manny's 147 resumé is clearly better than Floyds?

    Also, believe it or not, my observation was that of a boxing fan, who would be interested to see Floyd really tested at 147. Hard for a groupie like you to understand, I know.

    The ironic thing is I would pick Floyd to beat a lot of people at 147, including big welters like Plasterito and Tall Paul. But he should have fought them.
     
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    To some extent yeah, but Zab and Ortiz both beat very average belt holders and never really lived up to the wins.

    Also, importantly they are both around Floyd's size, natural 140 pounders.

    I'd like to see Floyd against some proper welters that are proper welter size, like Oscar, with good jabs.
     
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    LOL

    You are such an unbelievable tool. A career 140 lber?! Victor Ortiz was having trouble making 140 when he was still a kid (18 years old), he made 140 a whopping 4 times after his 19th birthday. He rehydrated 21.5 lbs the last time he did it. For his last fight at 147 he weighed 164 lbs in the ring and was ripped. By your logic Floyd Mayweather Jr is a career 130 lber. Fucking moron.
     
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    But you picked Hatton to beat Floyd, right?
     
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    Like who?

    Cotto is a small Welter also by your criteria. Pacquiao is TINY by your criteria and so shouldn't even qualify. I guess Mosley and Oscar were too old..according to you.

    That leaves Cintron and Margarito. You really think Floyd would have difficulty with these characters?
     
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    You're the moron, jesus christ, you're unbelievable.

    Ortiz is the very definition of a career 140 pounder, seeing as almost every single one of his fights has been at 140, you fucking mook.
     
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    Yeah, I picked Oscar too, more out of hope than anything.

    Hatton and Oscar are good wins, the rest of his post Castillo resumé is shit.
     
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    Ortiz wasn't making the 140 lb limit for most of his fights, they were non-title fights and he killed himself to make 140 when he had to. What you said was:

    I guess when De La Hoya moved up to 140 from 135, you must've felt that he was "not a junior welter" because he was a career 135 lber.. even though he was a HUGE junior welter and killed himself to make 135. You're so fucking dumb, it's amazing.
     
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    That's the thing, I would pick Floyd to beat Cintron and Plasterito with ease. I think he'd beat Tall Paul too.

    It's just a shame Floyd doesn't have the balls to match his talent.

    As it happens Cotto is one of the best fighters of Floyd's career, but he really is a stylistic dream for Floyd.

    There's a reason Floyd has avoided fighting proper welters.
     
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    Clottey whooped Zab. You know the guy you refuse to give Manny credit for beating.
     

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