Just brilliant James Toney in his prime....

I have actually always agreed about the sparring, as you said if you have the experience.

You don't think running serves any valid purpose? How about short-ish distances?

 

No, you should do 12 rounds of moving and being chased in the ring while hitting full power on the pads. Have your trainer hit you with the pads to practice and practice avoiding the pad, moving your head...all motions you do in the fight. Running for 10 miles helps you in marathons not in the ring. If you are a pro fighter, you all training should be for a 12 round fight. If you need to get your nerves in order get him with a flat light board. It hurts, but won't cause internal damage. Getting punched in the face is for money alone. The human head was not designed for blunt force trauma regularly. If you are a person who had 100 amateur fights, you know how to fight.i think that is why TONEY was in decent fighting shape in the ring as he got older. His body was trained to do fighting motions although you get eat whatever you want like that fat turd did.

 

Interesting take for sure. Still, damage aside, wouldn't you think a guy who has been sparring would be more prepared than a guy who hasn't?

Would be a tough transition to make.

 

Running is excellent for overall stamina and endurace. I go running with my dog every day, even if the weather is shit, or I don't feel great.

I do agree to an extent about sparring. Sparring sharpens you, above all your reactions and your ability to avoid punches/see them coming, but sparring should be light imo. What's the point of gym wars and taking unnecessary punishment.

Light sparring didn't do Oscar and Calzaghe any harm for example.

 

Remember the beating he laid on Danny Green back when Green was considered a good prospect? Fat ass Toney in there bloodying Green up and calling him a bitch, that was something to see. Some people speculated that Green was never the same after that, though I don't know how good he really was to begin with.

 

I think the worst beating I've watched was James Kirkland against some random dude. Kirkland hammered the guy the whole time and basically destroyed his face.

I don't remember Toney doing a number on Green. I'd have to see that sparring session again. I remember Toney threatening to shoot Green, I think. Green was the fighter trained by Fenech, right?

 

Green is a scrubby hillbilly.

But yeah Buddy, I'd have to agree, Kirkland sparring is absurd really. He looks like he's trying to murder his sparring partner.

 

Might well have contributed to Oscar never being able to relax in the ring. Ditto for Wlad before Steward got him sparring

 

If you fight like fighters do today, then yes you should spar. However, if you fight every 90 days and train in between no.

 

i guess he has always been a big fat party animal

i wonder how he is financially...he used to throw around alot of cash
how many times has he been married? i was watching some video about him on youtube from 1993 and it mentioned he bought his girlfriend a house :notallthere:

 

Yeah but he's from Detroit. The house probably cost him about 300 bucks.

 

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Fair point, and obviously contributed a great deal to Toney being obscenely relaxed in the ring.

 

One of the worst/fixed decisions I ever saw was when Dave Tiberi beat Toney pillar to post and was outright robbed of the title.

 

didn't Tiberi decline a rematch though?? so fuck him


many Toney fights are hard to score...it's the case of clean punching vs softer volume


Toney vs Griffin II was a weird one...i saw it again recetly...in round 12 Merchant comments "what is Griffin doing? does he think he's won this fight" .....Lederman scored is 117-111 to toney....then Griffin wins a sweeping decision with one judge even scoring it 119-109 to Griffin :say:

 

Even the Jirove fight was that way; crowd booing jab Judah yelling bullshit. I thought Toney won by about 8 frigging points.

 

Yeah, he knew what was coming and wanted no part of it. Toney won the first couple rounds easily iirc, then he gassed and that was when Tiberi started having his way.