Kostya Tszyu vs. Ricardo Torres @ 140

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Dog Jones, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    The one Hatton fought vs. the one Cotto fought. Who wins?
     
  2. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

  3. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    Tszyu...but who knows. Before the Hatton fight Tszyu was coming of a 14-16 months...
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Tszyu could be on his death bed and still destroy that scrub Torres.
     
  5. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Yeah a 16 month layoff and coming out fighting torres. He didnt look that good against Hatton and of course the man new his time was up and retired right after
     
  6. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Torres was garbage.
     
  7. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Phillips wasnt that great either.
     
  8. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Yeah was a lot better than Torres, who was garbage.
     
  9. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Torres punched harder.
     
  10. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    He was vastly inferior. Philips stops Torres, no doubt.
     
  11. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    BTW, Hatton should not get credit for beating, Zoo,especially from Hut aka the biggest hypocrite here. Mr. , I hate holding, but love Duran aka the holding faggot. Mr. bless the referee for the Khan fight, but Hatton beat Zoo legitimately. Nonsense.

    Hatton fought in a vastly more grotesque and illegal fashion than Khan has ever. Hatton should have been dq'd. It was an unwatchable fight.
     
  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Philips was Ray Leonard good compared to Torres.
     
  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    False.
     
  14. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Yeah. Torres was a can.
     
  15. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Torres did not punch harder than Vince Phillips
     
  16. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Torres punched hard but more importantly fought balls to the walls and was willing to trade punches.
     
  17. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    His KO percentage indicates he punches harder.
     
  18. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    how about his level of opposition?

    Lamar Clark's KO percentage indicates he punched harder than George Foreman, Ernie Shavers and Mike Tyson

    seriously, that's a mikE argument
     
  19. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Good point.

    That being said, you seem indicate that someone's level of opposition is an indicator on how hard they throw a punch. IMO torrest punched harder. Just based on my own eyes.
     
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    Cool Vince could punch too, I'd say their power is similar.

    I hate Tszyu and I'm a big fan of Cotto, but this nonsense has to stop. Torres was nothing at world level. Neither was Kelson Pinto. I don't care how they were regarded at the time, neither one of them is a great win.

    No fault of Cotto's, but he didn't face any particularly good fighter (obviously good being relative, ie at world level) at 140.

    The greasy little rat tailed mongoloid destroys Torres, and so would Cool Vince.
     
  21. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Why don't you like Tszyu? Greasy rat tail and ugly face aside, he seems like the kind of guy you'd like. Always throwing hard, meaty shots. Always going for the KO.

    I rewatched the Judah and second Mitchell fights last week and it reminded me how awesome Tszyu could be. Also, his hybrid Russian/Australian accent was a thing of beauty.
     
  22. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I've always thought Tszyu was super-overrated but I've sorta fallen in love with his style a decade late. Seek and destroy *dun dun dun dun dun dun*
     
  23. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Overrated or not, who cares. I always loved his style.
     
  24. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Also, 16 month layoff is bullshit.
     
  25. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I fully agree with this. He looked like a pale 140 lb John Ruiz in there.
     
  26. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Yeah I feel dirty for defending that win. You guys are right, it was not legit. Tszyu beats him anywhere neutral.
     
  27. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Torres was a clubfighter. To be fair, Cotto should be ashamed for getting battered by him, but Hatton with his pasty white china chin may not have gotten up at all. Cotto's is a tougher and more durable fighter than Hatton.Hatton was stopped dead by a feather fisted FLOYD.
     
  28. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    I dont know about battered. The first KD was a push. I dont remember if Cotto got dropped a second time, but if he did, it was legit. Torrest just punched like a damn retard. His punch shocked cotto, but cotto got up and manned up and traded blow for blow and stopped in the 7th.
     
  29. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    I'd say KOs over good opponents are worth about 5 times more than KOs over trash
     
  30. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    In terms of legacy, yes. In terms of determining how hard one punches? I dont know.
     

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