Chavez Jr vs Murray on June 16 is now off

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Panchyprsss, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    Visa problems knocked out Martin Murray from facing Chavez Jr. on June 16 at the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas. While the fight was announced just like an hour ago (according to Murray he had already signed to face Chavez Jr), I am glad that this fell through since it was another attempt in the eternal cowardly Chavez Jr plan to avoid Sergio Martinez. Hey, Chavez, Arum: Martinez is available!
     
  2. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Fight was never formally announced. In fact, according to Chavez side they hadn't even yet discussed financial terms.
     
  3. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Chavez needs to take his beating like a man.
     
  4. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Chavez Jr and the WBC are a disgrace.
     
  5. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    chavez vs martirosyan? step backwards from rubio
     
  6. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    The only person JCC Jr should be fighting is Martinez.
     
  7. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Chavez-Ward next
     
  8. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Ward who? Or are you just wishing he'd get smashed by Andre Ward?
     
  9. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    What's happened with a possible Andy Lee/Chavez jr matchup?
     
  10. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Arum and the WBC are waiting to hear back on Lee's test results. If there's a pulse remaining they'll look for another opponent.
     
  11. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    They might bring Mayorga out of retirement or maybe the WBC will rank featherweight Salvador Sanchez II as #1 middleweight.
     
  12. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    :lol:
     
  13. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    :lol:

    I think Chavez jr's running from Lee.
     
  14. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    :l2:
     
  15. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    What a fraud! I will never get tired of saying that.
     
  16. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    I read somewhere that Top Rank wants Chavez to sign long term in order to secure a fight in June. He said he is definitely not signing long term just to get the fights they owe him.

    Now this fool is playing hardball with Top Rank. :laugh11:
     
  17. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    if thats true i dont see how you come to that conclusion. fuck top rank, if thats the case. top rank has done well for a lot of guys, him included. but lets not pretend he owes them shit. he owes everything to his father for where he is right now.
     
  18. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Murray got a draw with Sturm, Macklin lost.

    Chavez would have been facing the better man. :nono:
     
  19. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    I think he owes his carreer to his father as well as top rank. It's because of Top Rank that he is still undefeated and has a belt. It's because of the ridiculous match making and good promotion that he is a draw.

    If he doesn't wanna sign long term is because he is not happy. I can see other guys leaving top rank for something better. But this guy? you gotta be kidding me.

    Even when Suleiman is pushing for the Martinez fight Arum makes sure he fights someone else.

    I don't like Top Rank either but I can't inmagine why Chavez jr. wouldn't be happy with all the paydays and great promotion they gave him. Hell he's been on a shitload of ppv cards back when he was a prospect.
     
  20. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Agreed. It's not like you're auto superstar just because you have a famous father, there's a shitload of other examples of guys that didn't get anywhere near the attention of Jr.

    Top Rank have played their part well.
     
  21. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    at first I can see people paying to see the Legend's son and how good he is or will be. But that was a while back. Top Rank did a good job in developing a decent fan base for him with those latin fury cards at the border arenas.

    funny though I read Dibella himself saying they are negotiating the Martinez fight.
     
  22. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    top rank is the best in the business at building an attraction but they didnt have to do shit with chavez jr. i saw the guy on ppv undercards when he was 16 or 17, with only a few fights under his belt, and there would be more than 8 or 10 thousand people in the arena screaming wildly for him when his name was announced.
     
  23. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    yea, give me just a few of these shitload of examples?

    perhaps you dont realize the magnitude of the popularity chavez had/has in mexico and the among mexican americans.
     
  24. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

    I don't disagree he is a draw. But look at his so called championship run. It's because of Top Rank that he has a belt and no losses.

    If he fought better competition a while back like he should have he would off got his ass whooped already. He wouldn't be nearly the same draw he is now.
     
  25. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    any promoter could pick easy foes for chavez jr. i dont give top rank credit for that. fernando beltran could have done the same exact shit without arum.
     

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